Holy Sh*t Play have killed off HKL's website! ;-)

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 22 Feb 2005, 22:32

I'm sure FS are only remastering HK titles and yes I'm sure it's to new to need a remaster.

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 22 Feb 2005, 23:18

"Bang-Rajan" is awesome. I watched it like 2 years or so ago when the German DVD was released. Stupid fools released it either in Thai or with a German dub. Now the reason they are stupid fools is that they forgot to add subtitles.

As for the film itself... it is an awesome film, the only problem I had was that I couldn't tell some of the villagers apart from each other. They all have the same beards etc... really weird. Guess I'll need a second view.

Kronik · Post by **Kronik** » 23 Feb 2005, 14:23

Didnt they say Dragons Forever was going to be their first high definition print or something like that?

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 23 Feb 2005, 16:11

No, Warriors Two was/is.

They said DF would be "one of the first HD titles" along with Warriors Two but that probably wont be the case anymore (ie it wont be the first HD title) with DF being postponed.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 23 Feb 2005, 17:49

bradavon wrote:Is the Master known under a different name?

Not that I've heard of.

I doubt COF will be a FS remaster.

Depends where they got/get the print from? If it's from Media Asia then it won't be HD and if it's Fortune Star then it will be.

If OC is not from FS then the PQ won't be as good so something else to complain about ;-D .

That's not HKL's fault though. I'm sure it'll look better than the old Mei Ah at least.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 23 Feb 2005, 17:51

grim_tales wrote:Is Dragons Forever a FS title?

Yes.

I highly doubt Bang Rajan is. Its too new a film anyway to need a FS print. (Really looking forward to BR, by the way).

It's a Thai movie, no? Why would a HK distributor have anything to do with International rights?

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 23 Feb 2005, 18:16

I get ya

Its' being released on the Premier Asia label rather than HKL anyway.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 23 Feb 2005, 20:40

bradavon wrote:
Is the Master known under a different name?

Not that I've heard of

Yes it is.
It's "Wong Fei-Hung '92 "

Actually I've always known this movie as "WFH 92".
"The Master" doesn't ring a bell to me.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 24 Feb 2005, 01:56

Actually I've always known this movie as "WFH 92". "The Master" doesn't ring a bell to me.

"Wong Fei Hung '92" is the Chinese retitle. What I meant was that the only English title I know of is "The Master".

Shot in 1989 on the back of "Dragon Fight", "The Master" was shelved until mid-1992 when it was retitled (in Chinese) to cash-in on the success of "Once Upon a Time in China I/II" (which are of course known in Cantonese as "Wong Fei Hung I/II")

Maybe in France (that's where you're from right, Tom?) they used the Cantonese title?

Beer · Post by **Beer** » 24 Feb 2005, 08:00

Islandguy wrote: Dean Shek (does anybody like this guy??)

I like him a lot... but only in "A better tomorrow II"...

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 24 Feb 2005, 12:05

Hey,

According to the latest HKL newsletter (24 Feb 2005), here are the release dates for the next few months:

Odd Couple 7th March
The Master 28th March*

Duel to the Death 4th April*
City on Fire 25th April*

Millionaires Express 16th May*
My Wife is a Gangster Platinum Edition 23rd May*

Jackie Chan - Project A Box set 13th June*
Dragons Forever Platinum Edition 27th June*

Project A Box set - just the old, old discs packaged in a box...?

I'll give that a miss thanks.
Looking forward to DF, ME and Odd Couple

Is The Master any good? I think it was the 1st (?) WFH film to star Jet Li, (confusingly, OUATIC was the 2nd in 1991). As Mark said, it was shelved until 1992.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 24 Feb 2005, 12:39

Will Odd Couple really be a "12"?

The cover on the HKL site has a BBFC "12" on it.

ICE-angel · Post by **ICE-angel** » 24 Feb 2005, 13:06

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 24 Feb 2005, 13:10

As I said, yes it is. It is cut by about 5 seconds.

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 24 Feb 2005, 13:23

Cover arts for upcoming films:

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 24 Feb 2005, 13:30

I quite like the Duel To The Death one, isnt The Master a WFH film?

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 24 Feb 2005, 13:50

It is aka "WFH 92". It is a modern day action flick where Jet goes to the US to help/avenge *insert any other violent term* his master.

I hope they won't change the one for "City on Fire".

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 24 Feb 2005, 13:55

OK thanks LD

I got confused because on the HK trailer for "Once upon a Time in China" (1991) - HKL translates one piece of Chinese text as "The second in the series following our legendary heroes" as if there's been a Jet Li WFH movie made before OUATIC 1?

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 24 Feb 2005, 16:42

TBH I wish HKL would stop releasing boxsets of already available movies (Warrior/Bichunmoo? Project A 1 and 2?

) and release newer titles more quickly.

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 24 Feb 2005, 16:53

BTW, just checked out IMDB. The alternate title they have listed for "The Master" is "Wong Fei Hung".

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 24 Feb 2005, 19:27

grim_tales wrote:Project A Box set - just the old, old discs packaged in a box...? I'll give that a miss thanks.

Maybe they're going to use the Fortune Star transfers? Otherwise why bother?

Is The Master any good?

It's alright if you're expectations aren't high.

I think it was the 1st (?) WFH film to star Jet Li, (confusingly, OUATIC was the 2nd in 1991). As Mark said, it was shelved until 1992.

This movie has NOTHING whatsoever to do with Wong Fei Hung. It was just what they retitled the movie in Chinese to cash-in on OUATIC (part 2 of which was released only a few weeks before The Master).

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 24 Feb 2005, 19:33

grim_tales wrote:Will Odd Couple really be a "12"? The cover on the HKL site has a BBFC "12" on it.

Yes, it's a '12'. Same rating as given for the old Eastern Heroes tape.

While we're at it, isn't Duel To The Death censored in the UK ? I haven't seen a re-submittal for classification in the BBFC site so far...

Sometimes the submissions don't show up until after the discs release... packaging approval is required for one thing. But I'd say with some certainty the movie will be passed uncut. The video cuts (5 secs of shuriken use) are no longer applicable under 1999's revised guidelines.

As for the cover art... Duel to the Death and City on Fire are just fine. But The Master is poor, reusing the central image from their Hitman DVD.

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 24 Feb 2005, 19:39

Markgway wrote:As for the cover art... Duel to the Death and City on Fire are just fine. But The Master is poor, reusing the central image from their Hitman DVD.

Agreed!

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 24 Feb 2005, 20:43

I hope The Master is better than Dragon Fight which was pretty good but not great (it's as good as Hitman). It looks much better going by the trailer. I've only seen Dragon Fight with a dreadful WB English dub though.

Markgway wrote:Maybe they're going to use the Fortune Star transfers? Otherwise why bother?

I really can't see that. Why spend money re-releasing a DVD that to most people is fine anyway. It's more likely for the reasons I've mentioned below.

Tom2681 wrote:Actually I've always known this movie as "WFH 92". The Master" doesn't ring a bell to me.

I'm sure The Master is it's Disney re-title and for once it's better. WFH 92 is a dreadful title for a film that has nothing to do with WFH. The Master is still dreadful too though.

Markgway wrote:That's not HKL's fault though. I'm sure it'll look better than the old Mei Ah at least.

I know. I was taking the mick

grim_tales wrote:TBH I wish HKL would stop releasing boxsets of already available movies (Warrior/Bichunmoo? Project A 1 and 2? ) and release newer titles more quickly.

They're cheap to produce and people love box sets.

They're cheaper too for people who don't own the films. If I didn't already own PA and I wanted it plus PA2 I'd prefer the box set. I don't like box sets that put to unconnected films together though (Musa/Bichunmoo for example).

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 25 Feb 2005, 00:26

I hope The Master is better than Dragon Fight which was pretty good but not great (it's as good as Hitman).

Opinion is divided, but I'd say 'The Master' is the better of the two. But I prefer 'The Hitman' to both.

I've only seen Dragon Fight with a dreadful WB English dub though.

The English dub title is, I believe, called 'The Defector'. Or something very close.

I'm sure The Master is it's Disney re-title

I can assure you it's not. It's the one title Disney left relatively alone, except for adding Jet Li's possessive.

They're cheap to produce and people love box sets.

I fear you may be right...