BCI to release Asian stuff from Miramax vault!

RickyTheDragonSteamboat · Post by **RickyTheDragonSteamboat** » 08 Aug 2008, 20:59

Read.

RickyTheDragonSteamboat · Post by **RickyTheDragonSteamboat** » 08 Aug 2008, 20:59

Cool!

Shingster · Post by **Shingster** » 08 Aug 2008, 21:13

Hmm, fingers crossed that Miramax had the international cut of Dragons Forever!

RickyTheDragonSteamboat · Post by **RickyTheDragonSteamboat** » 08 Aug 2008, 21:26

I've seen a few of these on TV, including Dragons Forever. It was the international print with English opening and end titles.

Shingster · Post by **Shingster** » 08 Aug 2008, 21:38

fingers crossed that they have the canto track for the international cut! (probably unlikely)

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 09 Aug 2008, 07:33

The UK Dragons Forever is already excellent. I cannot see them beating it.

It's good to see some of the other get hopefully improved DVDs though. This is very good news indeed. I still find it weird that Miramax never bothered to release them and as such didn't try to sell them sooner.

This may even mean BDs too!

Killer Meteor · Post by **Killer Meteor** » 09 Aug 2008, 07:52

Any Dragons Forever could be improved upon by incorpoarating the two psychiatrist sequences back into the film. They were present in the English version, and do exist in Cantonese, as seen on the bonus features on the HKL dvd

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 09 Aug 2008, 08:32

I watched those deleted scenes and while they help to flesh out Yuen Biao's character I didn't think their inclusion would help the film.

Killer Meteor · Post by **Killer Meteor** » 09 Aug 2008, 12:00

Why not? I thought they were pretty funny

The reason they aren't in most versions is that they were cut from theatre prints to shorten the film a bit

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 09 Aug 2008, 12:18

Those two scenes are vital to understanding Biao's character and their inclusion is necessary.

Ironically HKL included them on their DVD as an extra but with Cantonese mono which means that they could've re-edited them back into the film. Seamless branching would've worked fine and been easy as the scenes are self-contained.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 09 Aug 2008, 12:27

Not all companies can do seamless branching.

Ivan Drago wrote:Why not? I thought they were pretty funny

Because they aren't especially funny and would just serve to make the film longer.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 09 Aug 2008, 12:32

bradavon wrote:Not all companies can do seamless branching.

It's not that difficult surely?

Because they aren't especially funny and would just serve to make the film longer.

To me they are funny and even with their inclusion the film would only run 98m @ 24fps. So bollocks! 8)

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 09 Aug 2008, 12:44

Markgway wrote:It's not that difficult surely?

I'm not sure but the fact only a handful of companies have ever used it must mean something. I can think of Artisan (T2) and Fox (Alien box set). I'm sure there's 1-2 I'm forgetting but not many.

Most opt for Integrated branching (MGM with Robocop) which always look awful, to the point you wish they hadn't bothered. No BD/HD-DVD has used seamless branching yet.

Markgway wrote:To me they are funny and even with their inclusion the film would only run 98m @ 24fps. So bollocks! 8)

I like them "as deleted scenes".

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 09 Aug 2008, 13:42

bradavon wrote:No BD/HD-DVD has used seamless branching yet.

What about Spider-Man 2/2.1?

P.S. The theatrical version of Dragons Forever is the director's cut as far as I know.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 09 Aug 2008, 13:57

Is that seamless branching? I don't know about that one.

Shingster · Post by **Shingster** » 09 Aug 2008, 14:50

Markgway wrote:It's not that difficult surely?

IIRC there are no DVD pressing factories that can create seamless branched discs in the UK, maybe none in Europe. There are even very few in America.

Killer Meteor · Post by **Killer Meteor** » 09 Aug 2008, 15:49

I'd rather they did the longer version with the psych scenes. Anyone who wants the shorter version can get the HKL

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 09 Aug 2008, 15:55

I'm pretty sure the HK Vidéo versions of Tai-Chi Master and Fist of Legend have seamless branching.
Same video file for both the shortened US cuts and the HK cuts.

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 09 Aug 2008, 16:00

bradavon wrote:Is that seamless branching? I don't know about that one.

Yeah, you choose whether you want to watch the theatrical version or the special version, and then the Blu-ray integrates the relevant scenes seamlessly (which is standard for Blu-rays featuring multiple cuts, just like the layer change is seamless on BDs unlike DVDs).

Shingster · Post by **Shingster** » 09 Aug 2008, 16:06

tom2681 wrote:I'm pretty sure the HK Vidéo versions of Tai-Chi Master and Fist of Legend have seamless branching.
Same video file for both the shortened US cuts and the HK cuts.

Could be a factory in Europe then. Maybe the old news that few factories can do seamless branching was BS in the first place.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 10 Aug 2008, 11:38

Shingster wrote:IIRC there are no DVD pressing factories that can create seamless branched discs in the UK, maybe none in Europe. There are even very few in America.

I stand corrected.

chenlung · Post by **chenlung** » 12 Aug 2008, 18:21

Yuen Biao scenes explain why he wants to kill Pauline Yeung.

With Final Cut Studio, you can make discs that include seamless branching, I don't see why everyone makes an ugly tit out of something that could be so simple.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 12 Aug 2008, 19:00

Markgway wrote:I stand corrected.

Has anyone got a frame?