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GitS 2: Innocence - BD vs. HDLite vs. R1 vs. R2UK vs. R3K

Posted: 10 Apr 2007, 11:29
by Lourdes
R3K is an R2J port.
HDLite is a 1280x1080 MPEG2 Broadcast.
Blu.ray is 1920x1080 MPEG2.

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I find it interesting that the R1 looks better than the R3K in some caps but not in others, I know I definitely didn't mix up the caps. Weird. The BD is disappointing, during actual playback it is notably better than the DVD's but not nearly enough. The HDLite which has been around for a long time evidently came from the same master, they need to come up with a new one and a nice H.264 transfer.

Posted: 10 Apr 2007, 13:52
by tom2681
Sure isn't pin-sharp, but I kinda like the BD. :)

Thanks Lourdes.

Posted: 10 Apr 2007, 15:23
by gojensen
There is a clear advantage to the BD disc over all 3 others. It's really noticable in the finer detail... I think the R3K is weakest among them, then the R1, the "hdlite" and finally the BD. even going from the HDLite to the BD caps is like lifting a blurry film away from the screen...

Could it bet better? I dunno, kinda depends on the source materials :D (And it is possible the bd master was just upscaled from the hdtv broadcast --- it's been done with other films...)

Posted: 10 Apr 2007, 22:38
by captainjoe
How do you get the Blu-ray captures? You should add more BD vs SD discs.

Posted: 18 Jun 2007, 03:56
by Lourdes
Added the R2UK. Best looking of the three DVD's.
Pretty much irrelevant to me now, HD all the way.

Posted: 18 Jun 2007, 04:10
by EvaUnit02
Lourdes wrote:Added the R2UK. Best looking of the three DVD's.
Pretty much irrelevant to me now, HD all the way.
Did you use the DD5.1 or DTS disc? The DTS disc is slightly higher bitrate.

Posted: 18 Jun 2007, 04:52
by Lourdes
DD5.1, but I'm told they're the same. It's 'borrowed' so I can't doublecheck myself.

Posted: 18 Jun 2007, 05:40
by EvaUnit02
What went wrong with the Korean DVD? I mean WTF it's out done by a fucking Manga Entertainment release.

Posted: 28 Jun 2007, 12:44
by EvaUnit02
Dammit! How come nobody said anything about the Japanese BD having English subs?!

That straw breaks the camel's back, I want a PS3.

Posted: 28 Jun 2007, 17:20
by Lourdes
EvaUnit02 wrote:Dammit! How come nobody said anything about the Japanese BD having English subs?!

That straw breaks the camel's back, I want a PS3.
I'm waiting for them to shrink the chips next year, apparently they run hot and get very noisy.

Posted: 28 Jun 2007, 19:58
by bradavon
What is HD Lite? How do you do the HD captures?

Posted: 28 Jun 2007, 20:49
by Lourdes
HDLite is a HD broadcast which isn't at full resolution. Usually 1280x1080, they cheat people to save on bandwidth.

Posted: 29 Jun 2007, 20:32
by bradavon
Oh thanks. So it's cropped then or is it open matt?

Posted: 29 Jun 2007, 20:36
by Lourdes
Can you not see the screens?

Posted: 29 Jun 2007, 20:45
by bradavon
Yes thanks.