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Payback director's cut coming soon...

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this is a definite for me 8)

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I heard that the Director's Cut is a drastically different movie and that Mel Gibson "saved" it.

Would like to see both cuts if possible.
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Very interested to see this.

I liked the theatrical version (which was hardly soft) and would hope to see both incarnations in a 2-disc set.

I don't have a problem with Gibson slapping Unger about as she deserves it (and more), but I think if you make Gibson too ruthless throughout, you're left with no one to root for. That may have been fashionable in the 70's but it doesn't wash nowadays.
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Great movie too IMO, and would like to see this.
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When is it out?

Payback: The Theatrical Cut is a gratitous, vapped, waste of space tv movie. Trash in other words. I remember Lucy Lui being good though.

Was there any need to smash Gibson's feet?
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Vapped?
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bradavon wrote:When is it out?

Payback: The Theatrical Cut is a gratitous, vapped, waste of space tv movie. Trash in other words. I remember Lucy Lui being good though.

Was there any need to smash Gibson's feet?
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Agreed - YOU :D
Markgway wrote:Vapped?
Oops no - Vapid - Yes
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bradavon wrote:When is it out?
Try reading the linked article next time.
Here’s the problem though. At this point, according to Helgeland at the screening, the film will most likely end up going to DVD in February or March – with a minor dump into a few theaters here or there.
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HD-DVD/BRD details:-
http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=63598

Paramount Home Entertainment have announced the USA HD DVD and Blu-ray Disc release of Payback Straight Up: The Director’s Cut for 10th April 2007. Mel Gibson portrays Porter, a career criminal bent on revenge after his partners in a street heist pump metal into him and take off with his $70,000 cut.
Features are still TBC but the running time for this director’s cut is listed at 90mins, making it shorter than the theatrical by 10mins.
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Fuck HD, what about DVD for the rest of us plebs?? :(

I hope they don't make the mistake of excluding the theatrical version - if only for comparison's sake. It's required for any definitive release - and some people may actually prefer it. After all very few have actually seen the Dir's Cut. It could be a bunch of arse?
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From the sound of the new cut anyway its NOT the old cut we were expecting, they must have burned all that footage. Its nowhere near enuff footage to make the film its origanal state. Basically this re-release isounds pants and its not the origanal cut at all, its something new and sounds poo compared to what the origanal film was.

I remember all the stuff that was cut, they went ionto a lot of detail around the time the film was hacked to death, and really I cannot see much of that stuff coming back at all, the whole film would have to be rediscovered as it was a totally different film from begining to end.
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Gibson shot a lot of new footage though, and removing all of it would reduce the runtime considerably even with Helegland's original scenes back in. They reportedly get to the final showdown much quicker in the DC, with none of the Kris Kristofferson character/build-up.
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DVD news:-
Paramount Home Entertainment have announced the Region 1 DVD release of Payback Straight Up: The Director’s Cut for 10th April 2007. Mel Gibson portrays Porter, a career criminal bent on revenge after his partners in a street heist pump metal into him and take off with his $70,000 cut.

Features are still TBC but the running time for this director’s cut is listed at 90mins, making it shorter than the theatrical by 10mins.

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Hmmm... don't know if I want a shorter cut, that misses 10 minutes. I'm happy with the way the film is right now.
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Ahh but if its the origanal cut, its ntohing like the film released at all in any way, different story, cast memebers even and begining and end. Its NOT the same film, but hell I seriously dont expect that origanal cut, still we will see.
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Sounds a load of bollocks sadly, far from the origanl cut I expected, its a hack version from the sound of it.
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romerojpg wrote:Sounds a load of bollocks sadly, far from the origanl cut I expected, its a hack version from the sound of it.
How's that?

Everything I've read about this version says its the original cut the way it was originally conceived and written.

Here's another review too:

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/sho ... p?t=254204
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Post by romerojpg »

From what I read the origanal cut was well over 2 hours long, this new one isnt. That says it all, lots of the film is still missing or gone forever. This new cut is a hybrid of stuff they found and played with, not the origanal cut at all. So its bollocks :D
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Post by EvaUnit02 »

Have you actually seen the new cut? If not, then STFU until you have.
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Post by romerojpg »

EvaUnit02 wrote:Have you actually seen the new cut? If not, then STFU until you have.
Dont need to see it to know

ITS NOT THE ORIGANAL CUT! ITS OVER 30 MINUTES SHORT!
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I'm interested in seeing this new cut. I had nothing against the theatrical cut but I am intrigued by it. I'll probably pick it up in HD.
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romerojpg wrote:From what I read the origanal cut was well over 2 hours long, this new one isnt. That says it all, lots of the film is still missing or gone forever. This new cut is a hybrid of stuff they found and played with, not the origanal cut at all. So its bollocks :D
I believe Brian was fired without having completed his version of the film, therefore it would be pretty impossible for him to have a completed film. Similiar to Donner's Superman II. Or they were shot and maybe Brian just decided to excise those seasons for various pacing reasons.

And the reviews have been very positive. I don't get the hostility. Until you see the film, you can't give an opinion.
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Post by romerojpg »

Er yes I can give an opinion, on the length of the film as it should be. I copuldnt give a shit about what the end product is, its not the directors vision thats for sure. Its a studio cut to make more cash, nothing more.