Payback director's cut coming soon...

saltysam · Post by **saltysam** » 01 Nov 2006, 18:38

this is a definite for me 8)

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/30466

BiscLimpkit · Post by **BiscLimpkit** » 01 Nov 2006, 18:45

I heard that the Director's Cut is a drastically different movie and that Mel Gibson "saved" it.

Would like to see both cuts if possible.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 01 Nov 2006, 20:21

Very interested to see this.

I liked the theatrical version (which was hardly soft) and would hope to see both incarnations in a 2-disc set.

I don't have a problem with Gibson slapping Unger about as she deserves it (and more), but I think if you make Gibson too ruthless throughout, you're left with no one to root for. That may have been fashionable in the 70's but it doesn't wash nowadays.

brooce-leroy · Post by **brooce-leroy** » 01 Nov 2006, 20:52

Great movie too IMO, and would like to see this.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 01 Nov 2006, 22:01

When is it out?

Payback: The Theatrical Cut is a gratitous, vapped, waste of space tv movie. Trash in other words. I remember Lucy Lui being good though.

Was there any need to smash Gibson's feet?

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 01 Nov 2006, 23:27

Vapped?

Yi-Long · Post by **Yi-Long** » 02 Nov 2006, 00:00

bradavon wrote:When is it out?

Payback: The Theatrical Cut is a gratitous, vapped, waste of space tv movie. Trash in other words. I remember Lucy Lui being good though.

Was there any need to smash Gibson's feet?

Some people shouldnt be allowed to have an opinion...

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 02 Nov 2006, 00:12

Agreed - YOU

Markgway wrote:Vapped?

Oops no - Vapid - Yes

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 06 Nov 2006, 06:37

bradavon wrote:When is it out?

Try reading the linked article next time.
Here’s the problem though. At this point, according to Helgeland at the screening, the film will most likely end up going to DVD in February or March – with a minor dump into a few theaters here or there.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 21 Dec 2006, 03:56

HD-DVD/BRD details:-
http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=63598

Paramount Home Entertainment have announced the USA HD DVD and Blu-ray Disc release of Payback Straight Up: The Director’s Cut for 10th April 2007. Mel Gibson portrays Porter, a career criminal bent on revenge after his partners in a street heist pump metal into him and take off with his $70,000 cut.
Features are still TBC but the running time for this director’s cut is listed at 90mins, making it shorter than the theatrical by 10mins.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 21 Dec 2006, 06:59

Fuck HD, what about DVD for the rest of us plebs??

I hope they don't make the mistake of excluding the theatrical version - if only for comparison's sake. It's required for any definitive release - and some people may actually prefer it. After all very few have actually seen the Dir's Cut. It could be a bunch of arse?

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 21 Dec 2006, 18:06

From the sound of the new cut anyway its NOT the old cut we were expecting, they must have burned all that footage. Its nowhere near enuff footage to make the film its origanal state. Basically this re-release isounds pants and its not the origanal cut at all, its something new and sounds poo compared to what the origanal film was.

I remember all the stuff that was cut, they went ionto a lot of detail around the time the film was hacked to death, and really I cannot see much of that stuff coming back at all, the whole film would have to be rediscovered as it was a totally different film from begining to end.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 21 Dec 2006, 19:39

Gibson shot a lot of new footage though, and removing all of it would reduce the runtime considerably even with Helegland's original scenes back in. They reportedly get to the final showdown much quicker in the DC, with none of the Kris Kristofferson character/build-up.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 24 Dec 2006, 01:44

DVD news:-
Paramount Home Entertainment have announced the Region 1 DVD release of Payback Straight Up: The Director’s Cut for 10th April 2007. Mel Gibson portrays Porter, a career criminal bent on revenge after his partners in a street heist pump metal into him and take off with his $70,000 cut.

Features are still TBC but the running time for this director’s cut is listed at 90mins, making it shorter than the theatrical by 10mins.
source

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 24 Dec 2006, 03:22

Hmmm... don't know if I want a shorter cut, that misses 10 minutes. I'm happy with the way the film is right now.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 24 Dec 2006, 18:39

Ahh but if its the origanal cut, its ntohing like the film released at all in any way, different story, cast memebers even and begining and end. Its NOT the same film, but hell I seriously dont expect that origanal cut, still we will see.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 24 Mar 2007, 02:33

DVD REVIEW:

http://www.dvdcorner.net/html/main/inde ... index=1207

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 24 Mar 2007, 14:32

Sounds a load of bollocks sadly, far from the origanl cut I expected, its a hack version from the sound of it.

Barbarian King · Post by **Barbarian King** » 25 Mar 2007, 00:56

romerojpg wrote:Sounds a load of bollocks sadly, far from the origanl cut I expected, its a hack version from the sound of it.

How's that?

Everything I've read about this version says its the original cut the way it was originally conceived and written.

Here's another review too:

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/sho ... p?t=254204

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 25 Mar 2007, 14:39

From what I read the origanal cut was well over 2 hours long, this new one isnt. That says it all, lots of the film is still missing or gone forever. This new cut is a hybrid of stuff they found and played with, not the origanal cut at all. So its bollocks

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 25 Mar 2007, 15:12

Have you actually seen the new cut? If not, then STFU until you have.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 25 Mar 2007, 15:33

EvaUnit02 wrote:Have you actually seen the new cut? If not, then STFU until you have.

Dont need to see it to know

ITS NOT THE ORIGANAL CUT! ITS OVER 30 MINUTES SHORT!

captainjoe · Post by **captainjoe** » 25 Mar 2007, 17:30

I'm interested in seeing this new cut. I had nothing against the theatrical cut but I am intrigued by it. I'll probably pick it up in HD.

Barbarian King · Post by **Barbarian King** » 25 Mar 2007, 18:34

romerojpg wrote:From what I read the origanal cut was well over 2 hours long, this new one isnt. That says it all, lots of the film is still missing or gone forever. This new cut is a hybrid of stuff they found and played with, not the origanal cut at all. So its bollocks

I believe Brian was fired without having completed his version of the film, therefore it would be pretty impossible for him to have a completed film. Similiar to Donner's Superman II. Or they were shot and maybe Brian just decided to excise those seasons for various pacing reasons.

And the reviews have been very positive. I don't get the hostility. Until you see the film, you can't give an opinion.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 25 Mar 2007, 18:42

Er yes I can give an opinion, on the length of the film as it should be. I copuldnt give a shit about what the end product is, its not the directors vision thats for sure. Its a studio cut to make more cash, nothing more.