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Posted: 15 Oct 2008, 07:59
by Killer Meteor
Posted: 15 Oct 2008, 10:14
by grim_tales
Ivan do you reckon Dragon Fist is worth getting despite all that?

I thought the original language was Cantonese.
Posted: 15 Oct 2008, 12:58
by Yi-Long
Wow... seems a bit steep.
Posted: 15 Oct 2008, 14:00
by bradavon
WTF at that price.
Markgway wrote:To show Yuen Biao how "crazy" his character is.
WTF! What a lame reason.
Posted: 15 Oct 2008, 14:35
by grim_tales
£379 WTF!

I think I'll get some of those cheap HKL's, is Magnificent Bodyguards any good? Thats only £3. I thought I'd get that with Dragon Fist/Shaolin Wooden Men and Last Hurrah for Chivalry,
Posted: 15 Oct 2008, 16:16
by chenlung
Magnificent = Downmix, wrong language and an enjoyable film personally

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Shaolin Wooden Men = Wrong Language.
Last Hurrah For Chivalry = Might be the best subtitles around, although it does have some competitors like Megastar which are also said to be good (a possible port of Tai Seng's?). However, Dragon Dynasty has a few extras.
Posted: 15 Oct 2008, 16:23
by Markgway
£379? That was the film's budget!!
grim_tales wrote:Ivan do you reckon Dragon Fist is worth getting despite all that?

I thought the original language was Cantonese.
Shot in Korea with the Chinese actors speaking Mandarin. Although it was released in HK after a delay with a Cantonese dub.
Posted: 15 Oct 2008, 16:47
by chenlung
Markgway wrote:Shot in Korea with the Chinese actors speaking Mandarin. Although it was released in HK after a delay with a Cantonese dub.
I disagree about determining the language based on lip-sync only (although if the language was intended to be Mandarin, then fair enough). It's the studio's decision IMO. Include both if you want to satisfy both arguments.
Posted: 15 Oct 2008, 16:51
by grim_tales
Theres also a "Spiritual Kung Fu" DVD, 2.35/1, Cantonese etc, release year is given as 1978. I thought it was released in 1980?
I'll buy a few movies and see if I like them, Fearless Hyena was quite good.
Posted: 15 Oct 2008, 17:07
by chenlung
Spiritual Kung Fu is also a Mandarin film - HKL's DVD doesn't include mono at all.
Posted: 15 Oct 2008, 17:20
by grim_tales
OK

Posted: 15 Oct 2008, 18:03
by Killer Meteor
grim_tales wrote:Ivan do you reckon Dragon Fist is worth getting despite all that?

I thought the original language was Cantonese.
It is downmix so I'd say don't bother
Posted: 15 Oct 2008, 18:05
by Markgway
chenlung wrote:I disagree about determining the language based on lip-sync only (although if the language was intended to be Mandarin, then fair enough). It's the studio's decision IMO. Include both if you want to satisfy both arguments.
Dragon Fist was produced by Lo Wei and all of his films with Jackie Chan were Mandarin with the sole exception of The Fearless Hyena.
The reason Dragon Fist was released in HK with a Cantonese dub is because it came out about a year after Drunken Master even though it was filmed many months before that film.
Snake in the Eagle's Shadow was Jackie's first Cantonese film.
Dragon Fist his last Mandarin one.
Posted: 15 Oct 2008, 22:34
by grim_tales
Theres' also a DVD of Snake and Crane Arts of Shaolin - 2.35/1. Cantonese (should be Mandarin I guess), bound to be a step up from the fucking awful EH disc), any good?

Posted: 16 Oct 2008, 04:48
by Killer Meteor
grim_tales wrote:Theres' also a DVD of Snake and Crane Arts of Shaolin - 2.35/1. Cantonese (should be Mandarin I guess), bound to be a step up from the fucking awful EH disc), any good?

Actually the DVd is Mandarin but again a dowmix
The Columbia was 2.35:1 and proper Mandarin but cut by 5min - not censored, just missing random bits of footage
Fearless Hyena was the only HKL Jackie Chan/Lo Wei DVD to have genuine mono. I reccomend renting the others first to judge whether you can cope with the remixes - I know I can't!
Posted: 17 Oct 2008, 16:41
by jimmyscab
Are the AUS releases exactly the same as the UK DVDs?
Posted: 17 Oct 2008, 16:50
by Killer Meteor
Yes, censor cuts and all
ONE exception I know of. Dragon Inn Australia has an optional English dub, HKL just has Mandarin audio.
Posted: 17 Oct 2008, 16:55
by jimmyscab
Ok cool. What about stuff like Original Mono tracks?
Posted: 17 Oct 2008, 17:45
by Killer Meteor
Same as HKLs so depends entirely on what the UK disc has.
Those goddawful layer changes are in the same places too, according to one Aussie sight, with the exception of Dragon Inn, which from reviews seems to have a better layer change than HKL's UK disc, which was slap bang in the middle of a shot of people charging towards the camera
Posted: 17 Oct 2008, 19:30
by jimmyscab
Ok thanks
They should have added the Cantonese track not the english one :shock:
Anyway coincidently I received Dragon Inn today through the post (R3 version). Nice picture, but don't remember the tint being that extreme. Well Canto track at least, 5.1 + Original!
The HKL trailer for it is still one of my favs though.
Posted: 17 Oct 2008, 22:10
by Killer Meteor
Yeah I love that trailer too! HKL made some really impressive ones back in the day - heck, they made Black Sheep Affair look like the best film EVER!
Posted: 17 Oct 2008, 23:46
by grim_tales
I loved the haunting music they used on the Fist of Fury CE trailer, and the Story of Ricky one that made it look like a serious prison drama (!)
Posted: 14 Dec 2008, 21:28
by Killer Meteor
Seems more and more HKLs are now out of print. Just a few still avaliable cheap - notably the Bruce Lee films.
Posted: 14 Dec 2008, 21:54
by bradavon
Back to shite HK DVDs then

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Re: Holy Sh*t Play have killed off HKL's website! ;-)
Posted: 09 Feb 2010, 23:52
by Killer Meteor
This year is HKL's 10th anniversary and I kinda miss them.