Jurassic Park DTS

jimmyscab · Post by **jimmyscab** » 03 Nov 2007, 22:37

Does anyone know where I can get the R1?

I know its out of print but i was hoping i can get it somewhere.

It seems all DTS versions of this movie is so hard to find.

I'd even settle for a Bootleg im so desperate lol

Whats the DD 5.1 version like?

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 03 Nov 2007, 23:31

Extras aside by all accounts the R2J Sony Superbit is the way to go. It has a different 5.1 mix to all other versions and is said to be superior.

As I no longer really care about extras I'd probably go for that. I'm sure the Universal 5.1 mix is also good (i.e - R1 DD5.1, R1 DTS, UK R2, R4) but I hear it's not as good. The Universal DVDs do have extras though.

If you do find the R1 DTS make sure when it arrives you've got the fixed version, see notes here at the end to find out how to tell the difference:

http://www.dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=507

As to where to buy the R1 DTS it looks to be OOP (the DD5.1 version isn't) so all I can suggest is eBay.com. I cannot find it anywhere either. Strangely Jurassic Park 2 DTS version isn't OOP though.

The R2J SB is on Amazon.co.jp but I'm unsure if it's in stock. It's not listed on CD Japan.

p.s - Personally I'd wait for the HD-DVD or Blu-ray now.

jimmyscab · Post by **jimmyscab** » 04 Nov 2007, 16:46

Thanks brad.

I thought the Japanese SB is also long OOP?

I dont see myself getting HD anytime soon. But I guess I will wait. Or maybe pick up a DD5.1 version for cheap.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 04 Nov 2007, 17:05

No worries.

jimmyscab wrote:I thought the Japanese SB is also long OOP?

Sadly I believe it is. If you want to give it a go it maybe available at Amazon Japan though.

jimmyscab wrote:Or maybe pick up a DD5.1 version for cheap.

Unless you get lucky you'll probably have to. That you should be able to pick up cheap as chips.

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 04 Nov 2007, 17:40

I'd love to have Jurassic Park in HD.

jimmyscab · Post by **jimmyscab** » 04 Nov 2007, 19:25

Does anyone here actually own the Jap superbit or R1 DTS? Does it really sh*t over the DD5.1 version?

Whats the picture quality like?

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 04 Nov 2007, 20:01

Picture quality according to DVD Beaver is a little better on the Sony transfer over Universal. I imagine that's because the Universal DVDs are now 7 years old and do have extras taking disc space up:

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDCompar ... icpark.htm

That said to me they all look virtually identical. I wouldn't get to hung up over the DD5.1. For starters it's the same 5.1 mix as found on the R1 DTS, it still is 5.1 and it's not as if you have any choice. It's just the 5.1 mix on the Sony R2J is more aggressive but it's a moot point when it's OOP.

Remember it's the better 5.1 mix by Sony that is important to the SB than the fact it has DTS. Granted the fact it has DTS on top is a bonus but I'd also imagine the DD5.1 on the SB is great. Yes given the choice I'd opt for the R2J but unless you find it second hand it's long gone.

jimmyscab · Post by **jimmyscab** » 04 Nov 2007, 21:05

Arrggh. Ok thanks again Brad.

But when it comes out on HD we will get the Universal mix no?

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 04 Nov 2007, 21:25

jimmyscab wrote:But when it comes out on HD we will get the Universal mix no?

Possibly if the HD Disc doesn't come from Japan BUT then again the Universal 5.1 mix is 7 years old so I'd hope they'd create a new one. I hope all the 5.1 mixes on Blu-ray and HD-DVD aren't the exact same 5.1 mixes found on the DVD version. Obviously I've no idea though, seeing as it's not out.

Then again there isn't obviously anything wrong with many 5.1 mixes on DVD. All 5.1 mixes should sound better on HD-DVD/BD though as the vast majority are encoded at much higher bitrates to what DVD can store.

jimmyscab · Post by **jimmyscab** » 04 Nov 2007, 23:23

I remember there were loads of Bootleg Superbit versions on eBay coming from HK or something before they had caught on. I actually wish I bought one now!

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 04 Nov 2007, 23:59

A Superbit Bootleg would be a waste of time. The disc would be a DVD-5 so compressed from the DVD-9 original and therefore negating the point of SB. SB exists to increase the bitrate, there wouldn't be much point to then compress that SB down to a DVD-5.

I'd definitely opt for a DD5.1 version over one of those.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 05 Nov 2007, 21:09

The Superbit goes for INSANE cash, best save you cash unless you really want top shell out £60-£100

some people love it enough to pay that much mind you.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 05 Nov 2007, 23:42

People are such muppets. There's no way the Sony 5.1 mix is "that" much better than the older Universal 5.1 mix.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 06 Nov 2007, 20:37

bradavon wrote:People are such muppets. There's no way the Sony 5.1 mix is "that" much better than the older Universal 5.1 mix.

Yup you got that right. Many people who pay such insane prices that I know of, still do not bother with HD at all. Mmmm insane. All the cash they blow on silly DTS titles could pay for a HD player instantly if they flogged them expsnsive Japanese Superbits.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 06 Nov 2007, 22:38

I love DTS but boy it can be overrated. It's just an surround sound format but the way some people talk a bout it you'd think DTS is the holy grail.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 07 Nov 2007, 03:11

Speaking of overrated....

Jurrasic Park itself.

'The Lost World' was the only one of the three I actually liked.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 07 Nov 2007, 13:34

I like all three but do agree it's overrated. I think the dinosaurs are great but the story is soppy. I don't think it's aged well.

The Lost World was pretty poor. I liked Jurrasic Park 3 though, it kept it simple, short and all about the dinosaurs. I don't think any are really keepers.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 07 Nov 2007, 14:38

I liked Lost World the most. The part when they take the dinos back to San Diego and then they go on the loose is hilarious.

All three are just special effects showcases though.

The "smart raptors" thing in JP3 was really silly. By that point the series had become a parody of itself, just like the Jaws sequels.

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 07 Nov 2007, 14:54

Uhhh what are you all on about? Jurassic Park is a classic! The second one is OK, and the third one sucks. The fourth one will most likely suck too.

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 07 Nov 2007, 14:57

Oh and its effects are still amazing, way better than most films produced nowadays, which is amazing considering it was released in '93!

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 07 Nov 2007, 15:52

It's because most films nowadays rely far to much on CGI. If made today it would be CGI all over the bloody place.

Is a fourth still happening?

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 07 Nov 2007, 18:29

According to IMDb, it is currently in pre-production.

I wouldn't be so sure about the CGI all over the place thing, because Spielberg is making the new Indiana Jones film with as little CGI as possible.

jimmyscab · Post by **jimmyscab** » 07 Nov 2007, 20:23

Jurassic Park is no way overrated!! In fact its underrated, I dont tend to hear much about this movie these days. Considering in 93 it was a massive massive release. It was the last movie I saw in the cinema where I felt the 'magic' (I was still quite young).

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 07 Nov 2007, 20:37

I went and saw Demolition Man in the cinema instead of Jurrasic Park, the better film

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 07 Nov 2007, 20:39

Oh dear.