French DVDs and Blu-Rays of Asian Movies

palplathune · Post by **palplathune** » 28 Aug 2007, 20:11

tom2681 wrote:Re: From Beijing With Love:
I hope HKV have spent a lot of time working on the subs.
Chow's puns are extremely difficult to translate.

I would be surprised if they would.

dvdvision · Post by **dvdvision** » 29 Aug 2007, 06:51

I think this release have been delayed for a long time for that prime reason. They wanted the subs and dub to be really well done.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 29 Aug 2007, 10:24

That's what I was hoping for.

They did a good job with Chow's Chinese Odyssey and Shaolin Soccer, so I'm optimistic.

dvdvision · Post by **dvdvision** » 29 Aug 2007, 17:44

Yes, this was scheduled originally about 5 to 7 years ago !

dvdvision · Post by **dvdvision** » 06 Sep 2007, 06:52

Just got a review copy of From Beijing with love, it's an incredible package (as usual with HK), the subtitles appears to be OK, I didn't see any evident pun, but then again, the booklet goes about how difficult, or impossible, is it to translate Chow's pun in french. The level of care that went into the release seems to be as high as their Shaolin Soccer double DVD with the two versions.

The print is immaculate, never have seen the movie looking so good.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 06 Sep 2007, 14:37

Good to know.

I've just ordered my copy.

Will do a Universe vs HK Vidéo comparison when I receive it.

Knetan · Post by **Knetan** » 06 Sep 2007, 15:07

hey,

any of you guys read the booklet included in THE LONGEST NITE package? If so, does it go over the actual work (minimal if rumours are correct) Patrick Yau did on the film and Johnnie To's ghost-directing work?

dvdvision · Post by **dvdvision** » 06 Sep 2007, 15:19

I miss this one in my collection (actually, I miss 18 HK DVDs, I need to catch back on my buying, but they have tons of recent issues, all great + a new collection of Cat III and Jackie Chan movies which is made by them, but not HK labeled, still they look HK in everything but name). So sorry, cannot tell !

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 07 Sep 2007, 11:23

Haven't bought The Longest Nite, sorry.
Haven't seen it yet, actually.

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 07 Sep 2007, 20:56

More translation help (for the audio), please

http://www.hkcinemagic.com/fr/page.asp?aid=253&page=1

dvdvision · Post by **dvdvision** » 08 Sep 2007, 07:36

The french audio is the original dub, which is cut

You cannot watch the movie uncut in the original language, it's the same copy.

The reviewer wished they included at least some of the cut scenes as they are all action / musical ie not dubbing necessary.

stereo mix sounds like the original mono, but not as close as the HK DVD.

La version française est d'origine, avec ses coupes et son doublage très drôle même si le choix de la voix de Jackie est contestable. Sinon, la piste est claire, les voix ressortent bien mais les bruitages manquent de punch.

En temps normal, j'aurais conseillé aux amateurs de VF de faire un effort avec la VO, pour redécouvrir le film dans sa version intégrale, mais ce ne sera pas le cas puisque la VO est censurée . En fait elle contient exactement les mêmes coupes que la VF. Un choix très contestable, qui en révoltera plus d'un, et qui est une première dans cette collection attendue par beaucoup. De plus, les scènes coupées dans la version française auraient pu être rajoutées dans cette dernière puisque les scènes coupées ne sont que des cascades et des scènes d'actions, ainsi qu'une scène musicale intraduisible, mais au final l'éditeur a choisi d'en faire abstraction même dans la VO.

Mis à part le fait que la VO soit coupée, cette dernière reste tout de même indispensable pour apprécier le film, le doublage français pouvant parfois devenir énervant. La piste stéréo étant plus proche de la piste mono d'origine est à privilégier, même si le mixage n'est pas aussi proche de la piste mono que celle du DVD hongkongais.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 26 Sep 2007, 15:05

Update:

BUDDHA BE PRAISED !

The Better Tomorrow trilogy is coming !
HK Vidéo / February 15th 2008.

No details yet, but who gives a shit ?
It's gonna be great !

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 26 Sep 2007, 15:08

The Syndicate of Crime??? What a dumb title. That cover art sucks too.

Fair enough for you though.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 26 Sep 2007, 15:13

Early cover art.
Will probably change.

HK's final covers always look great IMO.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 26 Sep 2007, 15:38

Agreed, virtually all the time.

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 26 Sep 2007, 15:51

Now if they'll only get the transfer right...

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 26 Sep 2007, 18:34

bradavon wrote:Agreed, virtually all the time.

Shame that that's often not the case with their transfers.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 26 Sep 2007, 19:11

I tend not to pay any attention. No English subs = No Sale. Adding your own subs is fine for some but not me.

It's a hassle and even if it wasn't my PC cannot cope in comparison to my DVD Player, not at all. A computer is no replacement for a proper dedicated DVD Player, IMO.

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 26 Sep 2007, 19:15

bradavon wrote:I tend not to pay any attention. No English subs = No Sale. Adding your own subs is fine for some but not me.

It's a hassle and even if it wasn't my PC cannot cope in comparison to my DVD Player, not at all. A computer is no replacement for a proper dedicated DVD Player, IMO.

Why would someone watch movies with computer?

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 26 Sep 2007, 21:58

HungFist wrote:Why would someone watch movies with computer?

You can get upscalers that shit all over the ones in most dedicated DVD players for one. Who says you have to sit upright at desk and look at monitor? HTPC + output to a telly.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 27 Sep 2007, 01:03

EvaUnit02 wrote:HTPC + output to a telly.

I don't believe that would equal a top of the range DVD Player, which I use or at least it was Pioneer's top of the range about 18 months ago. The replacement added little.

Besides I don't have a HTPC

. Even if it does to me I want to put a disc in and press play on a proper remote control not faf around with a computer. Slightly off topci: As good as Windows Media Center is is doesn't come close to a HD+DVD Recorder Combo Unit.

It helps I'm not as fussy as some about picture quality. To me most "Remastered" DVDs will do just fine. There are exceptions such as Fist of Legend and Tai Chi Master where I created my own DVD, but those are rare exceptions.

HungFist wrote:Why would someone watch movies with computer?

The last time I checked DVD Players were unable to add custom subtitles. That would be a clever feature.

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 27 Sep 2007, 04:29

EvaUnit02 wrote:
HungFist wrote:Why would someone watch movies with computer?
You can get upscalers that shit all over the ones in most dedicated DVD players for one. Who says you have to sit upright at desk and look at monitor? HTPC + output to a telly.

True

bradavon wrote:
HungFist wrote:Why would someone watch movies with computer?
The last time I checked DVD Players were unable to add custom subtitles. That would be a clever feature.

That's why custom subbed dvd was invented

dvdvision · Post by **dvdvision** » 27 Sep 2007, 05:47

Actually this "early cover art" looks like fan made for internet cover art. I mean, the HK logo covers parts of the credits, it's absolutely not official.

frimann · Post by **frimann** » 28 Sep 2007, 14:58

Great news! I have read about it on various websites too.
I second dvdvision's comment on the cover, it's quite obvious, and it looks very much like the VHS cover that my video store owned in the old days

There has also been some talking about the releases of a Ringo Lam's "On Fire" trilogy boxset 'soon' and a limited "A Chinese Ghost Story" 4 DVD boxset (1 DVD for the extras) in January 2008...

Source: Zonebis forum

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 28 Sep 2007, 15:10

Do French studios use Fortune Star transfers?

HungFist wrote:That's why custom subbed dvd was invented

That takes to much time for me. My DVD Recorder plays DivX though which is nice and quick. I presume it can read sub files. I've never tried.