Face/Off - 2 Disc SE - DVD/HD-DVD/BD

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 14 Jun 2007, 17:40

About bloody time, this is excellent news IMO:

http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releases/faceoff.html

I'm definitely picking up one of the HD versions. I can wait for HD on this one.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 14 Jun 2007, 18:08

Pass on the SD SE, I already have the R1 barebones. HD will be a must buy, eventually.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 14 Jun 2007, 21:49

This was announced a while back, still seriously dont expect a good set of extras from them muppets, but we can hope.

The films great, but it still got some of the worst stunt double work in film history

then go into slow motion and it gets even worse!

Hope they CGI all the stuntmens faces off! as it would be less distracing than people who look nothing like the actors at all! every second shots a bloody stuntman!

Bugger.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 14 Jun 2007, 22:16

Well it has a commentary and is a 2 disc release so will be good enough for me. Extras are a bonus now a days for me, yes I get annoyed when none are included though.

Face/Off is great, one of the best Hollywood action films ever made. Stunt men obvious? Pah I never noticed and even if I did I wouldn't give a shit.

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 14 Jun 2007, 22:48

LOL, romero, you are so right. The damn boat chase has stuntmen all over the place. So does the shoot out on the rooftop of the prison and in the airport shootout in the beginning.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 14 Jun 2007, 23:49

I thought they were meant to be there

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 14 Jun 2007, 23:55

In the hangar near the beginning, you clearly see a guy get pulled back on a wire when he gets shot, it's ridiculously obvious.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 15 Jun 2007, 02:58

At least Paramount aren't neglecting DVD unlike some other companies (Warners I'm looking at you!!)

Face/Off is undemanding fun, but hardly a great movie. Die-Hard or Lethal Weapon it ain't. For one the acting is ridiculously hammy - if they can't take it seriously how am I supposed to? And the plot has more holes than Swiss cheese. I thought the speedboat chase was the best directed sequence, very exciting, but yeah, lots of obvious stunt-doubling.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 15 Jun 2007, 03:01

Markgway wrote:At least Paramount aren't neglecting DVD unlike some other companies (Warners I'm looking at you!!)

Do you mean neglecting DVD in favour of the HD optical formats? Then yeah, eg The Road Warrior.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 15 Jun 2007, 03:09

Yeah, I was thinking of The Road Warrior.

saltysam · Post by **saltysam** » 15 Jun 2007, 06:41

trouble for me with these dual format releases is deciding which one to get-blu-ray or hd-dvd

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 15 Jun 2007, 09:40

Markgway wrote:I thought the speedboat chase was the best directed sequence, very exciting, but yeah, lots of obvious stunt-doubling.

Where you can not only see the double hanging onto the boat, but also the skis under his foot. Even Jackie Chan hid them better in "Rumble in the Bronx".

sky75 · Post by **sky75** » 15 Jun 2007, 13:28

I still own the cut region 2 and the DTS region 3. Even though the picture's not very good with the region 3, the DTS soundtrack is cracking so I doubt I will upgrade.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 15 Jun 2007, 14:04

bradavon wrote: Face/Off is great, one of the best Hollywood action films ever made. Stunt men obvious? Pah I never noticed and even if I did I wouldn't give a shit.

Your eye sight must be so bad its amazing you can even see a film at all. It RUINS the action in the film seeing someone who looks nothing like the stars doing all the action, its a joke they let any of them get on the screen, its so bad it guts the film. Great film, far from anything like a best action film, not even close.

I prefer most other Woo films like Broken Arrow or Hard Target, both dont use Stunt Doubles that you notice in every action scene! and work far better. The best action film of the 90's was probibly The Rock, now thats damn superb! but Connery had a few double shots in that which stood out, but not even 1% as bad as Face Off

I want Face Off on HD, but we will see them faces more

in the cinema It really stood out badly. I havent even got round to watching the DVd yet

saltysam · Post by **saltysam** » 15 Jun 2007, 14:10

there is no way average actioner Broken Arrow is better than Face/Off

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 15 Jun 2007, 14:14

romerojpg wrote:
bradavon wrote: Face/Off is great, one of the best Hollywood action films ever made. Stunt men obvious? Pah I never noticed and even if I did I wouldn't give a shit.
Your eye sight must be so bad its amazing you can even see a film at all.

Brad has had eye surgery in the past, must've been a botched operation.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 15 Jun 2007, 15:24

saltysam wrote:there is no way average actioner Broken Arrow is better than Face/Off

Thats up to you

I think Broken Arrow is a masterpiece. We dont have to agree all the time.

saltysam · Post by **saltysam** » 15 Jun 2007, 17:49

A Masterpiece

it was ok nothing more

Hard Target was much better.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 15 Jun 2007, 18:12

Hard Target is a classic and blows Fuck/Off and Broken Ankle out of the water.

but Connery had a few double shots in that which stood out, but not even 1% as bad as Face Off

Connery was 66 when The Rock came out. 8)

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 15 Jun 2007, 18:19

Yup 66 and still at it, to his defence the stunts looked hairy for anyone

never mind an old guy.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 15 Jun 2007, 18:29

romerojpg wrote:Yup 66 and still at it, to his defence the stunts looked hairy for anyone never mind an old guy.

An old guy who could still leave you to bleed to death in a gutter with all your teeth missing.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 15 Jun 2007, 18:45

Nope nothing to do with my eyes I was too busy enjoying the film to give a shit and like I said if I could see them I'd chuckle and move on. I've got better things to care about.

But yes Eva is right, I have perspex lenses since 2005 (no seriously).

Markgway wrote:At least Paramount aren't neglecting DVD unlike some other companies (Warners I'm looking at you!!)

You condemning Warner for one release? I see no other evidence Warner are neglecting DVD.

Markgway wrote:Face/Off is undemanding fun, but hardly a great movie. Die-Hard or Lethal Weapon it ain't.

Face/Off is way better than Leathal Weapon, agreed on Die Hard though. As for being hammy that's part of it's charm. Plot holes? They're talking about swapping faces who gives a shit!

saltysam wrote:trouble for me with these dual format releases is deciding which one to get-blu-ray or hd-dvd

I wonder if there is any AV difference???

I was thinking the same. Are HD-DVDs or BD generally cheaper than the other? HD-DVD will be region free for sure, one could be cheaper than the other?

I'd probably decide on price but if all is equal would probably go BD as that's still looking more likely to win in the end.

saltysam wrote:there is no way average actioner Broken Arrow is better than Face/Off

Agreed, it's no way better.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 15 Jun 2007, 18:56

bradavon wrote:I was thinking the same. Are HD-DVDs or BD generally cheaper than the other? HD-DVD will be region free for sure, one could be cheaper than the other?.

RRPs for new releases in North America are the same, unless you're dealing with DVD/HD combos.

saltysam · Post by **saltysam** » 15 Jun 2007, 19:36

Went for hd-dvd of Road Warrior ahead of the blu-ray yet for Payback i went for the blu-ray over the hd-dvd

at the moment there is no rhyme or reason to my choice.to be honest i can see both formats existing happily for ages to come.Best bet for anyone is to wait for a decent combo player that is also multiregion for SD dvds.A lot of blu-rays appear to be region-free as well,Apocalypto usa being a recent one.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 15 Jun 2007, 20:06

Thanks Salty/Eva. Agreed about both formats co-existing. I doubt that will change until both/one becomes so cheap the masses want it.

decent combo player that is also multiregion for SD dvds

That's exactly what I'm waiting for, although SD-DVD MR is a bonus nothing more. One of my DVD Players is a Hard disk/DVD Recorder so that's not going and the other plays SACD and DVD-A so that's not going either.

It will probably be the Samsung except if they mark it at a stupidly expensive price. I really hope they're wait to add full support for BD-J which is due out finally in September/October.

p.s - How are you finding out a BD is R0? That BD site doesn't cover all releases.