Zu Warriors FTMM OR Yes Madam - Are they any good?

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 09 Dec 2006, 16:38

And just for good measure:

Which is better? And Why?

I'm trying to decide which to get at HKL. Is it true most of Yes Madam is slow with 3 silly crooks? Is Zu Warriors as good as some say or as pants as others say?

I'm veering towards for Yes Madam as I love Michelle Yeoh flicks and hear the end is really good.

Cheers

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 09 Dec 2006, 16:43

Yes Madam is fun because there's Tsui Hark in it.

Yeoh and Rothrock are annoying, though.

Zu Warriors is like a crazy wuxia flick with no budget and SFX from the 1920's.
On the plus side, there's Brigitte Lin and Moon Lee in it.

I'd go for Zu, but that's just me.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 09 Dec 2006, 16:45

How does Zu Warriors compare to A Man Called Hero? Which was "okay". Thanks again Tom, why is Yeoh annoying though???

Shingster · Post by **Shingster** » 09 Dec 2006, 16:49

A Man Called Hero is bland cgi-infested bollox, Zu at least as a lot of camp charm about it.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 09 Dec 2006, 16:51

Haven't seen Man Called Hero in a long time.
The main difference is the special effects I'd say.

Man Called Hero is CGI.
Zu Warriors is cardboard miniatures and hand-drawn lightsabers.

Re: Yeoh::
It's her character that's annoying. She plays a hard-hitting mean cop (which doesn't suit Yeoh IMO).

EDIT: Shingster beat me to it.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 09 Dec 2006, 17:08

Police Assassins Pisses on Zu from miles above, Zu isnt even a film, its an abstract messy beast. Still who gives a shit what we say anyway! just bloody buy them, flip a coin or something

I think its easy to say you dont agree with the taste of many people here, so just go and buy one and see ;D

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 09 Dec 2006, 17:10

How can you compare them theyre different genres of movie?

I found Zu Warriors a bit dull TBH.

But I havent seen Police Assassins.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 09 Dec 2006, 17:18

grim_tales wrote:How can you compare them theyre different genres of movie?

I know

, think of it for shits and giggles

Seriously I need to decide 2 films between the 4 I've picked and figured no harm in asking/getting peoples opinions.

I was only going to ask about The Swordsman and Moon Warriors but thought I may as well ask about these two, in case I'm wrong about Zu.

Shingster · Post by **Shingster** » 09 Dec 2006, 17:19

romerojpg wrote:Police Assassins Pisses on Zu from miles above, Zu isnt even a film, its an abstract messy beast. Still who gives a shit what we say anyway! just bloody buy them, flip a coin or something

Only Brad would be tight enough to start 2 threads trying to narrow down a list of 4 DVDs he's interested in that are going to cost him a massive £3 each to buy!

Go on Brad, it's christmas - treat yerself buy em all!

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 09 Dec 2006, 17:24

It's really 3 as Zu Warriors I was only ever marginally interested in and you can't get 3 and still have the deal, hence a decision needs to be made.

I think I'll get Yes Madam and after reading the comments here Moon Warriors, I can get The Swordsman later.

There are a couple of Jackie Chan's I might get so it's really more than just that to spend, it's easy with the Jackie's I know which two I might want (Dragons Forever and Wheels on Meals).

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 09 Dec 2006, 17:35

Actually scrap Zu Warriors I've just seen Tom's comparison (which helped with getting an idea of the dodgy effects too) and the JS easily wins:

https://www.bulletsnbabesdvd.com/forums/ ... php?t=2586

No point looking at the HKL now. What's on the JS Disc 2? Deleted Scenes and an Interview:

http://www.cd-wow.com/detail_results_2. ... de=1035933

Shingster · Post by **Shingster** » 09 Dec 2006, 17:35

Wheels on Meals and particularly Dragons Forever should be required purchases imo.

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 09 Dec 2006, 17:40

bradavon wrote: No point looking at the HKL now. What's on the JS Disc 2? Deleted Scenes and an Interview:

The deleted scenes are from the international cut. There's an alternate opening (about 30 fucking minutes of new footage) and a 10 minute alternate ending.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 09 Dec 2006, 17:45

What you think the footage should be in the film? Cheers that's some extras, an easy choice for the JS then.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 09 Dec 2006, 17:49

No the footage sucks bacly and ruins the entire film even more

it really is hilarious silly stuff, the overseas audiiences were treated like morons with new filmed footage to fill in the gaps. It didnt work in any way, but fun to see how patronising they can be.

Shingster · Post by **Shingster** » 09 Dec 2006, 17:53

I remember back in the old days of BnB when HKL were criticised for not including the international cut in its entirity coz people thought it was Tsui's director's cut.

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 09 Dec 2006, 17:54

The two versions are almost like different movies. The opening of the internatinal cut takes place in modern time, while the HK cut has no such scenes. That makes the story very diffent. I believe they are both egually good movies.

Zu isn't any masterpiece IMO. It's certainly better than any CGI crap, but the middle part drags. Too much special effects and too little anything else. But it's a nice movie overall. Rated it 3/5. But know people who consider it as one of their favourite HK movies of all time.

Shingster · Post by **Shingster** » 09 Dec 2006, 17:56

Yeah the pacing's about the main problem with Zu.

saltysam · Post by **saltysam** » 09 Dec 2006, 19:11

Zu Warriors is a borefest imo.incoherent for the most part. yes madam is great fun.

Killer Meteor · Post by **Killer Meteor** » 09 Dec 2006, 21:00

Never really cared for Zu. It's pionerring but messy and shallow.

Yes Madam's rather silly, with too much focus on the comic relief thieves. The end fight is fantastic - I've shamelessly admit to finding Ms. Rothrock very sexy - and James Tien is hilarious as the lead villian

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 09 Dec 2006, 23:22

Chalk up one vote for ZU.
One of the best wuxia flicks I've seen.

Yes, Madam is run of the mill, aside from an action-packed ending.

jimmyscab · Post by **jimmyscab** » 10 Dec 2006, 09:32

Zu doesn't make sense, and its completely crazy. But its soooo crazy its entertaining.

I actually think the sfx are lovely especially given the time period and budget.

And I really like the deleted int. cut scenes. Its around 45 mins in total and really is entertaining for the cheesy lovey dovey bits and fencing scenes.

brooce-leroy · Post by **brooce-leroy** » 10 Dec 2006, 09:35

Zu Warriors is crap, but Yes Madam (Police Assassins) is no better. I don't think you'll like either, so go for Wheels on Meals instead.

jimmyscab · Post by **jimmyscab** » 10 Dec 2006, 13:40

Yes Wheels on Meals > all

Yes Zu is crap, but get it anyway, cos it fun 8)

brooce-leroy · Post by **brooce-leroy** » 10 Dec 2006, 19:49

About as fun as rubbing my member on a cheese grater.

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