What's your favourite Dario Argento movie?

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 23 Mar 2005, 16:49

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 23 Mar 2005, 20:02

None!

I cannot vote as he is one of the worst directors in the world, he only makes Unwatchable crap to me.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 23 Mar 2005, 20:10

I've not seen any apart from some of Suspiria and I really, really hated the dubbing so turned it over.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 23 Mar 2005, 21:59

Philistines!!!

And for the record Suspiria is supposed to be in English. Every single version is re-looped by voice actors. But you maybe knew that?

Can't believe I'm the only one who's voted. Where the fuck is everybody???

Oh, and why was this moved from Anything Goes? Last time I checked a poll is not a DVD. So put it back please...

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 23 Mar 2005, 22:38

Markgway wrote:And for the record Suspiria is supposed to be in English. Every single version is re-looped by voice actors. But you maybe knew that?

I know it's supposed to be in English but that doesn't stop it from sounding god awful.

Markgway wrote:Oh, and why was this moved from Anything Goes? Last time I checked a poll is not a DVD. So put it back please...

The forum title is "Non-Asian Film/DVD Discussion" so covers non-asian film and dvd discussion. So is for film or dvd discussion. I've moved it back though as you clearly deliberately put it in anything goes and had a reason to do so. What was it? :mrgreen:

Why are members obsessed with posting anything non-asian dvd related in anything goes?

I can't help feeling "anything goes" is really the wrong title. As calling it that makes members want to post everything in it despite the tag line saying "No discussion of articles meant for other forums!". I'm not keen to change the title though as it's been this since I can remember. I suspect everyone else would agree.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 24 Mar 2005, 01:19

I see what you're saying about my polls relating to non-asian films, but I figured that as they weren't about DVDs specifically it might be best to put them in a more general surrounding. Sometimes it's tricky to know where to put what. I think Anything Goes is about right for now, but if others disagree you can switch it. I guess the Schwarzenegger poll should be 'here' too.

Re. Suspiria: Jessica Harper and Joan Bennett dub their own voices if that helps. I think Alida Valli does too.

Mordib · Post by **Mordib** » 24 Mar 2005, 07:26

must confess I'm not sure which of these films Ive seen, Sleepless, Trauma, Phantom of the Opera, Tenebrae, Inferno quite probably but I cant really announce a favorite since I clearly can't rememebr much about the films or whether ive actually seen them or just films of the same title... damn my addled mind!!

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 24 Mar 2005, 22:30

Like I said the asian and non-asian threads are just as much about dvds as films.

Markgway wrote:Re. Suspiria: Jessica Harper and Joan Bennett dub their own voices if that helps. I think Alida Valli does too.

Only a little. I take it they were speaking Italian on the day?

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 25 Mar 2005, 00:47

bradavon wrote:Like I said the asian and non-asian threads are just as much about dvds as films.

Yeah, I understand. As I said sometimes it's tricky to know where to put what threads. I figured polls belong in Anything Goes, but if other posters and Mods feel differently that's OK.

Only a little. I take it they were speaking Italian on the day?

Why would they? All of Argento's movies are shot English language. Two of the actresses mentioned are American. The only reason these films are dubbed is because the films are shot without sound (ala old Hong Kong cinema). The main actors do their own looping in the studio and voice artists are called upon to revoice supporting players (to disguise strong local accents) even though those actors also spoke English on set. Anyone who tells you these films should be watched in Italian is talking bollocks.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 25 Mar 2005, 01:28

My bad I thought they were shot in Italian being from an Italian director in Italy plus being Italian films. So all of his films are shot in English?

That's the thing I hate it when any film isn't shot in sync sound. I'd never work it out with Hong Kong films though so can't really complain about them. When English dubbing occurs 9 times out of 10 it's glaringly obvious and sounds very fake.

It just doesn't look professional to me. For example if Argento had an issue with an actors strong accent he should've employed someone else or someone who was talented enough to mask their accent. The excuse "it doesn't matter" as we'll just dub it over doesn't wash with me.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 25 Mar 2005, 11:02

bradavon wrote:My bad I thought they were shot in Italian being from an Italian director in Italy plus being Italian films. So all of his films are shot in English?

Yes. Italian productions in English. Not uncommon for the Giallo and Spaghetti Western genres.

It just doesn't look professional to me. For example if Argento had an issue with an actors strong accent he should've employed someone else or someone who was talented enough to mask their accent. The excuse "it doesn't matter" as we'll just dub it over doesn't wash with me.

Just the way it was done (and still is I think...?)

saltysam · Post by **saltysam** » 25 Mar 2005, 12:29

suspiria is an absolute classic,the opening sequence is superb and goblin's music score brilliant.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 25 Mar 2005, 15:08

Knew I could count on Salty...

saltysam · Post by **saltysam** » 27 Mar 2005, 15:56

i've also got deep red,sleepless,inferno,phenomena,tenebrae,opera. none quite up to suspiria's standards but all excellent-the eye scene in opera for example,superb direction.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 27 Mar 2005, 16:08

I thought that 'Opera' was atrocious myself. It's the Argento I saw most recently.

Aside from my fave, Deep Red, the others I liked enough to buy were Suspiria and Tenebrae.

Trauma, Inferno and Phenomena are OK, but not keepers.

Crystal Plumage was boring, though I only saw it dubbed into Italian. I tried to tape Cat O' Nine Tails once, but the tape switched itself off after 10 mins (is it THAT bad??)

Stendhal and Sleepless were utter K-rap!!

Never seen Four Flies or Phantom or Card Player.

saltysam · Post by **saltysam** » 27 Mar 2005, 21:22

stendhal was very poor but i enjoyed sleepless,dunno why as it wasn't well received but i thought it retained some of the atmosphere of his early movies.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 27 Mar 2005, 21:35

I like Max Von Sydow, but the poor bugger looked like he'd forgottten his lines. Even so, his was the only performance that wasn't absolutely crap. Sleepless shared the nihilisim of past glories, but none of the cinematic qualities. I was extrememly disappointed. Argento should've retired after Phenomena.