Crime Story: HKL vs Joy Sales

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 18 Aug 2006, 22:10

Ah Merci.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 19 Aug 2006, 01:39

Is the Joy Sales interlaced?

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 19 Aug 2006, 03:33

From what I gather, no.

But if it's important you may wish to wait for a review.

chenlung · Post by **chenlung** » 22 Aug 2006, 01:25

The DVNR in the FS 'Wheels on Meals' was absolutely horrible!!

Blue tint was intended, HKL muted it (evidence from screencaptures). They did consider removing the grain but decided against it (lostdragon's review).

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 07 Sep 2006, 21:41

The DVD Times review is up:

http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=62714

It's looking good.

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 07 Sep 2006, 21:57

dvdtimes wrote:The remix itself is surprisingly subtle, just the some extra sound elements added to car crashes and shootouts mainly

I thought there was supposed to be no new stuff added. Fuck :x

The mono better be decent. I already ordered this and sold my HKL...

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 07 Sep 2006, 22:09

What you want new foley affects? I've never heard that one before.

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 07 Sep 2006, 23:23

bradavon wrote:What you want new foley affects? I've never heard that one before.

No, he said he thought there was supposed to be NO new stuff added, so is mad lol

chenlung · Post by **chenlung** » 07 Sep 2006, 23:26

HKL (Credit: DDUK)

Joy Sales (Credit: DVD Times)

Fucking DVNR

...

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 07 Sep 2006, 23:33

You're seriously saying the HKL looks better?

chenlung · Post by **chenlung** » 07 Sep 2006, 23:36

Who said I'm saying that

?

Course not

!

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 08 Sep 2006, 05:39

Brad is getting everyone wrong...

What's DVNR?
(I bet I'd be happier not knowing...)

EDIT: digital video noise reduction?

how exactly does that work?

Ray_Rogers · Post by **Ray_Rogers** » 08 Sep 2006, 08:13

HungFist wrote:Brad is getting everyone wrong...

What's DVNR?
(I bet I'd be happier not knowing...)

EDIT: digital video noise reduction?

how exactly does that work?

Article on Wikipedia on noise reduction. Noise reduction = BAD.

There ya go! Although it'd be better if there were some visual comparisons demonstrating it...

And the Joy Sales kicks the HKL's ass in terms of film quality. Retains the blue tint, keeps the grain (film has grain which retains the finer details) and is highly detailed.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 08 Sep 2006, 08:20

HungFist wrote: EDIT: digital video noise reduction?

how exactly does that work?

Pooters removing grain. But you usually end up losing detail/natural film grain in the process. The most imfamous example is the R1/4 Citizen Kane restoration by Lowry Digital. The DVNR ended up erasing rain in at least one scene AFAIK.

Keung · Post by **Keung** » 08 Sep 2006, 12:58

Some deleted footage I just capped. I shall do some more in a few hours as I have to nip out somewhere.

Levi

chenlung · Post by **chenlung** » 08 Sep 2006, 15:06

Sometimes missing details aren't the only problem, but everything is smudged and leaves a trail after everything moves!

Note that you have to watch the moving video to be able to tell as it's impossible to tell from images only.

Take a look at 'Wheels on Meals' FS, 'Logan's War' MIA and 'Anne of Green Gables' (VHS anyway)!

Fortune Star tend to apply DVNR to deleted footage which is really annoying!

MLAM · Post by **MLAM** » 08 Sep 2006, 17:16

Whose that girl in the Deleted scene's pic? She's nice

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 08 Sep 2006, 18:53

Poon Ling Ling - she plays the psychiatrist.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 08 Sep 2006, 19:55

MLAM wrote:Whose that girl in the Deleted scene's pic? She's nice

Do you like every Asian girl?

Dude she's dressed like well a dude.

EvaUnit02 wrote:Pooters removing grain.

What does pooters mean?

HungFist wrote:Brad is getting everyone wrong...

Nope. Chen was insinuting he prefers the HKL for the DVNR on the JS. I was wrong.

Keung · Post by **Keung** » 08 Sep 2006, 19:56

Here's some more caps I just got.

MAIN MENU:

MORE DELETED FOOTAGE:

JACKIE SNATCHES THE RAQUET AND PROCEEDS TO SMASH HIS WAY THROUGH A LOAD OF TENNIS BALLS

THEN THIS HAPPENS........

MORE TO COME!

Levi

MLAM · Post by **MLAM** » 08 Sep 2006, 21:43

bradavon wrote: Do you like every Asian girl? Dude she's dressed like well a dude.

Maybe dressed like a dude but she looks ok, and no I dont like every Asian Girl! What do you think I am?!

bradavon wrote:What does pooters mean?

Think he means Computers, just a rough term for it, I could be wrong tho

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 08 Sep 2006, 21:51

Thanks. I thought it was Kiwi slang.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 08 Sep 2006, 23:51

Those deleted scenes are horrendously bad.

chenlung · Post by **chenlung** » 09 Sep 2006, 02:06

Markgway wrote:Those deleted scenes are horrendously bad.

In 'visual' quality

?

Keung · Post by **Keung** » 09 Sep 2006, 02:18

I dont think quality is that bad, look at the detail on Jackie's tie

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