Disney are running out of ideas...

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 16 May 2006, 14:29

You mean The Black Cauldron?

Yi-Long · Post by **Yi-Long** » 16 May 2006, 17:16

yeah that one. Fucked up the english name as it's known as Taran over here. Sorry.

the68monkey · Post by **the68monkey** » 30 Jun 2006, 23:03

grim_tales wrote:I didnt know about the Kimba influences in Lion King 68M (never heard of Kimba the White Lion), but the Disney animators acknowledge influences of Shakespeare (Hamlet?) and Bible stories, probably others too.

Resurrecting this thread because of a very interesting site on Kimba the White Lion: http://www.kimbawlion.com

For an extensive comparison between the two films, click on the link in the lefthand column that says "Lion King?" It will take you to a page that's top has Disney's early artwork for "King of the Jungle," the original title for "The Lion King."

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 01 Jul 2006, 08:46

Thanks Bobbi, interesting

Kurgan · Post by **Kurgan** » 01 Jul 2006, 18:46

As is stated if you follow the link from the68monkey, it's the fact that Disney deny all knowledge of anything Kimba related that is most grating.

Good read though.

the68monkey · Post by **the68monkey** » 01 Jul 2006, 20:35

Kurgan wrote:As is stated if you follow the link from the68monkey, it's the fact that Disney deny all knowledge of anything Kimba related that is most grating.

Rather disgusting how blatant it is, isn't it.

Kurgan · Post by **Kurgan** » 01 Jul 2006, 21:56

It's shocking that they've been able to get away with it.

I'll be the first to admit that I never heard of Kimba before the episode of The Simpson featuring James Earl Jones doing his Darth Vader/Mufasa/CNN voice as clouds in the sky, when his Mufasa 'mistakenly' says "Avenge my death Kimba, uh, I mean Simba"; I'm not sure if it was ever aired in the UK, and if it was, it was done before my time.
But even so, it doesn't excuse plagarism of that sort. Yes, lots of filmmakers are influenced by what they have previously seen; it's how they get the 'bug' to do what they do. But most at least acknowledge their influences and try not to go down the rip off route. Woo, for instance, is always happy to point out that Scorsese and specifically Raging Bull had a huge impact on his work.

It makes me sick to my back teeth. And my front ones as well.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 01 Jul 2006, 22:57

Anime/manga creators (specifically Tezuka) ripped off it's signature art style (ie big bug eyes) from Disney cartoons, so the cycle comes full circle.

Yi-Long · Post by **Yi-Long** » 01 Jul 2006, 23:14

Ripping off an art-STYLE is completely different I feel then ripping off a complete storyline...

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 02 Jul 2006, 07:47

Oh yes I remember that Simpsons line now too

At the time I didnt get the reference.

Its' the episode where Lisa meets jazz musician Bleedin' Gums Murphy.

slasher13 · Post by **slasher13** » 03 Jul 2006, 15:35

Oh yeah, i remember that esp as well. Like Grim, I never knew what it meant, very clever indeed

. It it the esp when Bleedin Gums Murphy dies, quite a sad one as well

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 03 Jul 2006, 15:48

Man, I remember Kimba. It used to be on Jordanian television when I was a kid and lived there. Wow! Why did it come to my mind only now that "Lion King" is a complete rip-off?

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 03 Jul 2006, 16:42

slasher13 wrote:Oh yeah, i remember that esp as well. Like Grim, I never knew what it meant, very clever indeed . It it the esp when Bleedin Gums Murphy dies, quite a sad one as well

Yeah its that episode I think.