The Official Seven Swords Thread!

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 04 Jan 2006, 11:05

Cantonese wouldn't sound right to me. The film is very much set in Mainland China.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 04 Jan 2006, 14:08

WTF is this ?

http://www3.cd-wow.com/detail_results_2 ... code=23381

3-Disc edition with DTS and a subtitled Director's Commentary ?!

But it looks like it's still the short version (153 minutes).

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 04 Jan 2006, 14:11

£35?!

Fuck off

Sorry but that price is ridiculous.

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 04 Jan 2006, 14:21

But damn expensive as well.

Watched the usual DVD version yesterday for the first time, I'm giving the film 3.5/5.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 04 Jan 2006, 21:19

I second that 3.5 out of 5 or 6 out of 10.

Tom2681 wrote:WTF is this?

It says silly man -

*HK official release

Me thinks it's a re-release but £35 for a HK DVD - WTF!!!

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 05 Jan 2006, 10:29

Thats what I said

We're talking Japanese prices now

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 05 Jan 2006, 11:33

There's a theory that if we shout loud enough you'll get heard

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 05 Jan 2006, 11:34

DDDHouse has it:
418 $HK.
42€.
£29.

Too bad it's the theatrical cut.

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 05 Jan 2006, 12:20

BTW, "Seven Swords" will soon be running in UK theatres. Do you think it will be cut due to animal cruelty? There were 2 scenes in it where horses were smashed a few meters away before dropping to the ground.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 05 Jan 2006, 12:23

Do you think it will be cut due to animal cruelty ?

I hope not.

When will the BBFC learn that these horses are professional stunt horses that have been falling on the ground every single day since they were old enough to stand ?

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 05 Jan 2006, 13:36

Yeah, but were they asked to if they wanted to become stunt horses? I think that is the problem.

Yi-Long · Post by **Yi-Long** » 05 Jan 2006, 15:12

thelostdragon wrote:Yeah, but were they asked to if they wanted to become stunt horses? I think that is the problem.

yeah, but using that logic, pretty much everything can be branded animal-abuse. Perhaps a horse is standing in a big green sunny field somewhere, but he's miserably unhappy cause his big dream was to be a racehorse... he wanted to make something of his life! He wanted to be a STAR! ... but alas... nobody cared enough to ASK him what he WANTED..... so now he's left useless the rest of his life, grazing ina field of grass...

I'm sure these horses are cared for with lots of love and attention by people who will handle them very well (in most cases, exceptions will always be around). I bet these horses come home after a long days work and enjoy bragging about their carreer in movies to the other horses.

Being a horse in the movie Alexander: Now THAT's cruel. Imagine that one on your resume...

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 05 Jan 2006, 16:53

Yi-Long wrote:Being a horse in the movie Alexander: Now THAT's cruel. Imagine that one on your resume...

Oh yeah, being ridden by a gay conqueror is the cruelest thing that could happen to you.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 05 Jan 2006, 17:33

Tom2681 wrote:When will the BBFC learn that these horses are professional stunt horses that have been falling on the ground every single day since they were old enough to stand ?

That doesn't make it right but LD isn't exactly right as the horse stunts in Braveheart were allowed as Mel Gibson proved it was all stunts.

If they'd used stunts, camera tricks or a machine (again camera trick) it would've passed uncut and quite frankly no one would've even noticed. They're so good at it.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 05 Jan 2006, 18:20

Do we even know if Tsui Hark will release *his* cut of the film on DVD? He may not do.

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 05 Jan 2006, 19:31

bradavon wrote:That doesn't make it right but LD isn't exactly right as the horse stunts in Braveheart were allowed as Mel Gibson proved it was all stunts.

All the big horse stunts in "Braveheart" were performed by very expensive mechanical horses. Having them especially made for the production was one of the major cost of the whole production.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 05 Jan 2006, 20:13

All the big horse stunts in "Braveheart" were performed by very expensive mechanical horses. Having them especially made for the production was one of the major cost of the whole production.

What about all the other Western horse falls? It's only Asian films that get cut ergo Western film-makers think of ways around it.

grim_tales wrote:Do we even know if Tsui Hark will release *his* cut of the film on DVD? He may not do.

And:

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 05 Jan 2006, 20:18

I agree Brad, thats why I get annoyed when people whine about the film being cut

You could be missing out on a great film, yes it is cut but just think of it as a Theatrical Cut IMO. You could wait years for the DC to come out.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 05 Jan 2006, 20:32

I heard Tsui Hark had a chat with Jonathan Mostow and Ridley Scott the other day.

It was agreed when Mostow releases Terminator 3: Extended Edition and Scott gives us Blade Runner: The Super, Extended, Amazing, Fantastic, Fabulous, Special, Collectors, Uber Cool, Outstanding, Director's Cut Edition Hark will unleash Seven Swords: Look how big my sword is edition.

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 16 Jan 2006, 23:08

My review:
http://www.asia-on-dvd.com/index.php?na ... cle&sid=48

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 17 Jan 2006, 09:47

bradavon wrote:I heard Tsui Hark had a chat with Jonathan Mostow and Ridley Scott the other day.

It was agreed when Mostow releases Terminator 3: Extended Edition and Scott gives us Blade Runner: The Super, Extended, Amazing, Fantastic, Fabulous, Special, Collectors, Uber Cool, Outstanding, Director's Cut Edition Hark will unleash Seven Swords: Look how big my sword is edition.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 18 Jan 2006, 06:35

bradavon wrote: That doesn't make it right but LD isn't exactly right as the horse stunts in Braveheart were allowed as Mel Gibson proved it was all stunts.

The animal cruelty on film laws over there is a definite sign of "PC gone mad". They're trampling on directors's creative freedom. They're times when liberals are just too damn liberal for their own good.

On the 4 hour cut of SS - The 150min cut is perfect IMO, the pacing is great. Honestly, who cares if minor supporting cast like the monobrow'd bald bloke wasn't anymore than a 2D cut-out? It's an action blockbuster FFS.

SS is great IMO. It shits over all over-rated films like Hero and HoFD.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 18 Jan 2006, 12:42

The animal cruelty on film laws over there is a definite sign of "PC gone mad". They're trampling on directors's creative freedom. They're times when liberals are just too damn liberal for their own good.

I disagree when being liberal is in place as you put it to prevent animal cruelty or even if they're trained animal suffering.

It shits over all over-rated films like Hero and HoFD.

OMG!

Seven Swords (like Kingdom of Heaven) felt cut, that's the problem for me. If it was cut but felt fine then I wouldn't be all that bother but would still checkout the uncut version.

Hero and HOFD are vastly superior IMO.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 18 Jan 2006, 13:39

It was very good but felt cut for me too Brad (Seven Swords that is).
Hero/HOFD are superb pieces of cinema.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 20 Jan 2006, 10:05

Hero was okay. HoFD is a fucking terribly written mess with good action and cinematography.