Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon - question

[grim_tales]

I think you're spot on Mark. In both DVDs (R2/R3) I compared the beginning and CYF death scene and both seem to match the original script bang on.

[bradavon]

It might be worth noting that I bought my R2UK on the day of its release.
So it's got to be from the very first batch.

Mark's also match yours and he bought his much later.

It seems one set of subs are a transcription of the original script whilst the other set are a translation of the Mandarin dialogue.

Then in other words neither are actually more accurate than each other

[saltysam]

i won't be getting this again till the BD comes out later this year.

[bradavon]

Is it scheduled? It was due to come then nothing.

I doubt I would now, for the same reason. I would have a few years back though definitely.

[tom2681]

Tom: Would a 32" LCD TV pick up the SB differences? I understand they're minute. Is the DTS much better to the DD5.1?

The differences are indeed very minute.

Want a quick DVD PQ comparison ?
I can do that.

Can't really comment on the sound.
Most DD and DTS tracks sound virtually identical on my amp.

[bradavon]

The differences are indeed very minute.

Want a quick DVD PQ comparison ?
I can do that.

Yes please.

Here is the comparison review Jenz did. You can see he has zoomed in on one of the shots:

http://www.alexmccaffrey.com/misc/Crouc ... arison.pdf

But yes please a "Tom Style Comparison Review" would be neat.

Can't really comment on the sound.
Most DD and DTS tracks sound virtually identical on my amp.

Or they sound virtually identical to you? You cannot notice any differences?

[tom2681]

Yea, I'm not good with sound.
I can barely tell the difference between 128 kbits/s MP3 and CD quality.

[bradavon]

I can barely tell the difference between 128 kbits/s MP3 and CD quality.

I cannot either. I wonder if anyone really can but when it comes to DTS/DD5.1 I can often tell.

I'm surprised you cannot of all people, consider how good your eyes seem to be.

[Markgway]

It might be worth noting that I bought my R2UK on the day of its release.
So it's got to be from the very first batch.

Mark's also match yours and he bought his much later.

No, I bought mine the week it was released.

It seems one set of subs are a transcription of the original script whilst the other set are a translation of the Mandarin dialogue.

Then in other words neither are actually more accurate than each other

Well, the "accurate" subs are a translation of what was actually said as opposed to originally intended, so yeah, they are more accurate.

[luckystars]

After reading this I think I'll get the UK Blu

[grim_tales]

But that has a different set of subs, right?

[luckystars]

My OCD wont allow it


The theatrical subs might have been the original screenplay, but like any film they adapt and changed dialogue in the filming process. In effect the actors were speaking a new Mandarin draft under Lee's direction. The new subs are a translation of what was actually spoken (shooting script).

Plus it's HD

[Killer Meteor]

Not very good HD - it seems to break up into blurry frames in a few places.

[luckystars]

Not very good HD - it seems to break up into blurry frames in a few places.

Hmmm I wonder if all HD releases are the same

[Shingster]

I think Ivan's being very harsh on the BD release there, yes the encoding falters at times but otherwise it's a very nice transfer.

[Killer Meteor]

I dunno...it's the only BD I have where the encoding falters in that manner. Be interesting if Sony revisited it for 'Mastered in 4k'

[Shingster]

Sounds like you might have a faulty disc if the encoding is faltering repeatedly? Not many grabs in the caps-a-holic comparison but there are no signs of major blocking, in fact the encode seems little better on the UK disc than the German there.

[luckystars]

No a spectacular transfer, but a definite jump from DVD^^

[Killer Meteor]

Sounds like you might have a faulty disc if the encoding is faltering repeatedly? Not many grabs in the caps-a-holic comparison but there are no signs of major blocking, in fact the encode seems little better on the UK disc than the German there.

No, you can see it in the transfer on youtube too. It is blink-and-you'll miss it, I admit.

[Shingster]

Are you talking about one isolated incident where the picture breaks up or something repeatedly appearing? If it's the former give me a timecode and I'll check my disc. I reviewed the disc back when it came out and didn't notice anything major like that (I think the worst moment of noise was the scene when Zhang Ziyi dives into some water), but it wouldn't be the first time I've missed a fleeting glitch.