Miracles aka The Canton Godfather HKL vs Joy Sales

[Markgway]

Here are the HKL caps. I'm waiting for Keung to post matching caps from his Joy Sales DVD. If anyone has any other edition they wish to add please do. I'll edit them in.

HKL: Original title without superimposition



HKL: Video generated title superimposed when in play


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[bradavon]

Last capture aside that looks like a decent HKL DVD.

[luckystars]

From memory this was one of their best remasters.

[Keung]

Been having trouble with PowerDVD. I'll get these caps done in the next hour or two.

[Killer Meteor]

The HKL is one of their nicer efforts, the 5.1 sound is on the quiet side and there's an awkwardly placed layer change, but it holds up well.

[Keung]

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a161/ ... VD_000.jpg - Title Card
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a161/ ... VD_002.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a161/ ... VD_001.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a161/ ... VD_003.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a161/ ... VD_004.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a161/ ... tled-1.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a161/ ... tled-2.jpg
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a161/ ... tled-3.jpg

[Markgway]

Comparison is up. Thanks, Keung.

[bradavon]

The HKL looks better but what about things like bitrates?

So the HKL has two sets of title cards? I assume one is an extra?

[Killer Meteor]

No, it's superimposed when in play. It says so in the damn comparison!

[bradavon]

I know it does. I read that thanks but for someone's who's never seen this disc it's not clear what that means?

[Killer Meteor]

Only you, only you...

[Markgway]

The HKL is sharper and richer, but suffers a visible squash.

[Killer Meteor]

They seemed to do that a lot. I think they were trying to avoid the distortion on the sides but overall it doesn't help. Same goes for some of the Dragon Dynasty titles.

[Markgway]

Probably not something you'd notice when watching the disc, but in side-by-side comparison it's obvious. I was planning on getting the Joy Sales for the mono anyways.

[bradavon]

Only you, only you...

If only we were all as intelligent as you. You could've answered my question quicker instead of just being a dick.

Seriously, can someone explain?

[Markgway]

Only you, only you...

If only we were all as intelligent as you. You could've answered my question quicker instead of just being a dick.

Seriously, can someone explain?

When you play the film the MIRACLES superimposition shows up.

But if you rewind or fast-forward and can pause it then you see the original LADY ROSE title underneath.

I just posted two caps to illustrate what HKL did.

Joy Sales on the other hand just redid the title card from scratch.

[bradavon]

When you play the film the MIRACLES superimposition shows up.

But if you rewind or fast-forward and can pause it then you see the original LADY ROSE title underneath.

Thanks, that's just bizarre. I take it it's known more as Miracles in The UK or generally?

[Keung]

My M.I.A VHS is titled The Canton Godfather.

[Markgway]

The rental VHS was called Miracles, but they changed it for the retail release to The Canton Godfather (see Keung's post). Both titles are widely used, but Miracles is the most common. However the original title is Mr. Canton and Lady Rose.

[Killer Meteor]

In the US, isn't it called BLACK DRAGON?

[gasteropod]

I was planning on getting the Joy Sales for the mono anyways.

I'd sell mine for like a fiver if you're interested? Mint condition and has the slipcase.

[Killer Meteor]

I don't like how the Joy Sales removes the "guns & roses" look of the original titles.

[luckystars]

I don't like how the Joy Sales removes the "guns & roses" look of the original titles.

I know, curious isn't it.

[grim_tales]

What do you mean Ivan?

[luckystars]

What do you mean Ivan?

Take a look at the title card caps again for both releases.

Not sure if this if one of those 'redone credits' efforts Fortune Star did, like on Fearless Hyena (I'd really love to see a remaster of the rare original sequence).