Films you found to be not as good as the hype...

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 09 Apr 2009, 00:04

I really liked Face/Off when I was a teenager, but when I watched it again a few years down the line, I was like 'oh dear...'.

Shingster · Post by **Shingster** » 09 Apr 2009, 00:30

I saw Face/Off in the cinema and once when it came out on DVD and not seen it since. I always considered it to have an intensely stupid script but fun action and performances. Hard Target I watched when it first came out during a period when I was quite the fan of JCVD and I absolutely hated it. I rewatched it again years later as an adult and enjoyed it a lot more. I wonder if I would find Face/Off quite so enjoyable nowadays though!

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 09 Apr 2009, 02:03

Face Off just gets worse every time I see it

if you have eyes its a pain to watch seeing the appauling stuntwork and stuntmen doing everything! and the utterly shit explosions with fireworks for a thing blowing up!

Broken Arrow decimates it

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 09 Apr 2009, 02:30

romerojpg wrote:and the utterly shit explosions with fireworks for a thing blowing up!

Yeah I hate that pyrotechnic effect in films.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 09 Apr 2009, 07:32

Brad I have the 5 disc set of BR, I got it when it was cheap

Robocop and Total Recall both rock

I liked Face/Off when I was younger but not really very much anymore.

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 09 Apr 2009, 08:21

bradavon wrote:
HungFist wrote:Not even for Castellari's cameo?
You should know by now, you're the geek not I . I've not got a scooby doo who he is, some "Bruce Campbell fanboy's cult wet dream" I'm guessing.

Heh, I just wanted to see your reply.

Enzo G Castellari is the director of the original Inglorious Bastards. And many other great films like The New Barbarians.

Markgway wrote: Yes. Absolutely correct.

And Total Recall rocks too!

Yes, finally some love.

Yi-Long · Post by **Yi-Long** » 09 Apr 2009, 08:41

Didn't care much for Total Recall either. I liked the story and the premise, but I didnt like the casting nor the directing. It looked cheap, amateuristic, and I felt it could have been done much more mature and better.
The story is good, the excecution isn't.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 09 Apr 2009, 12:47

HungFist wrote:Heh, I just wanted to see your reply.

I know

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Yi-Long wrote:Didn't care much for Total Recall either. I liked the story and the premise, but I didnt like the casting nor the directing. It looked cheap, amateuristic, and I felt it could have been done much more mature and better.
The story is good, the excecution isn't.

Agreed. Very amateurish.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 09 Apr 2009, 13:17

Total Recall and Robocop are masterpieces.

Yi-Long · Post by **Yi-Long** » 09 Apr 2009, 13:37

romerojpg wrote:Total Recall and Robocop are masterpieces.

Can someone shoot Romero in the face for having poor taste!?

(No Brad, I meant with a gun. Zip your pants back up!)

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 09 Apr 2009, 13:47

Well if it was a Big V film, you would at least see the gunshot to the face.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 09 Apr 2009, 15:14

Romero thinks Starship Troopers is a masterpiece remember.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 09 Apr 2009, 15:32

Well the shit you "Think" are masterpieces, well anything you say means nothing.

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 09 Apr 2009, 15:36

bradavon wrote:Romero thinks Starship Troopers is a masterpiece remember.

It is, almost. Maybe a bit too over the top with its satire and parody (loses a little bit of its edge) but it's a lot of fun.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 09 Apr 2009, 17:27

But Masterpiece? If you honestly think it's a masterpiece I have my doubts you know what the word actually means

. It gets overused so often.

romerojpg wrote:well anything you say means nothing.

Funny, people say the same about you

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EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 09 Apr 2009, 17:36

Full Metal Jacket - 3.75/5:
Fantastic first half during the boot camp, weak second half when they get to Vietnam. It didn't feel like any Vietnam that I've seen in other films before. It did look like the abandoned industrial sector of a Western city (South London was where it was shot, I think. Fucking Kubrick should've gone to Thailand like everyone else.).

Inland Empire - 2/5:
It was quite shit, TBH. I didn't enjoy it much at all, unlike Mulholland Dr, Blue Velvet and Wild at Heart - which are all excellent. Weird for sake of being weird.

Oh and I've heard the "trapped in a nightmare" argument before, I was just too bored out my skull watching this unfun long arse film to care.

The Hills Have Eyes (Craven original): 1/5
It's very shit, why does this film have a following? It's like it wants to be Texas Chainsaw Massacre but comes across as too campy with the bad make-up and over-the-top performances. Craven should've hired Tom Savini.

TCM has this utterly gritty documentary feel and a sense of tension that lingers throughout the film. Eg the scene where they find all of the slaughter house equipment, very eerie. The Hitchhiker at scene the start is totally unsettling and shocking, brilliant stuff. The 2003 remake on the hand is utterly soulless and feels like it was made in a factory, you guys are off your rocker for liking it, TBH.

I don't know what happened to Tobe Hopper, did he have a lobotomy after making this film or something? Poltergeist feels too much like Spielberg film and nothing like Hopper's style. Now Poltergeist is really overrated too.
More laughably cheesy rather than scary.

I saw Lifeforce a few months back on the MGM Channel, that was a lot of stupid fun, the plot was utterly ludicrous, but so much fun.
Seeing Patrick Stewart acting mental and making out with Steve Railsback is golden stuff. Oh and fuck, Matilda May was utterly smoking hot, spending most of the film totally naked.

Gremlins: 3.5/5
I liked the self-aware sequel that takes the piss out of its self a lot more than the original, TBH.

But oh man, was Phoebe Cates was really hot back then.

Rocky - 3/5
Utterly criminal how Taxi Driver lost to this film. It's utterly sentimental tripe, but it has this emotional honesty that stops me from hating it; although that's more likely just down to low budget and raw, deeply personal, documentary style that most of the great American films had in that era.

The direction and Stallone's tender, passionate performance saved it from the written tripe, now that I think about it.

The sequels are pretty shit on paper, but impossible to hate for entirely different reasons than Rocky I (Except Rocky V, which is just total shit.). Eg Rocky IV is pretty much Rambo II in a boxing ring and it is fucking awesome.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 09 Apr 2009, 17:41

Was Inland Empire ever hyped? It was loathed by all. I've not yet checked out my DVD.

I like Gremlins and Gremlins 2 but I doubt they've aged well.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 09 Apr 2009, 17:49

bradavon wrote:Was Inland Empire ever hyped? It was loathed by all. I've not yet checked out my DVD.

My own personal excitement, being a big fan of Lynch. I went in with very high expectations.

Fanboys also blindly love it. I'm not one of them because I'd happily admit to not liking/enjoying something.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 09 Apr 2009, 17:50

Ah fair enough. I'll have a proper read in a minute.

luckystars · Post by **luckystars** » 09 Apr 2009, 18:11

Total Recall's fun and from a great era of action film, but it's not on the level of Robocop - not even as good as Starship Troopers.

Still very watchable of course.

And can Mark and Brad get a room - they make me not want to log in these days

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 09 Apr 2009, 18:20

bradavon wrote:Was Inland Empire ever hyped? It was loathed by all. I've not yet checked out my DVD.

Roger Ebert gave it 4/4: http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbc ... 50301/1023

I personally like the film, it was one of my best cinema experiences ever, and on subsequent DVD viewings I still think it's very good.

luckystars · Post by **luckystars** » 09 Apr 2009, 18:39

I gave Inland Empire a 4/5 but that means nothing as well all have different systems

saltysam · Post by **saltysam** » 09 Apr 2009, 20:17

THX-1138- Early Lucas sci-fi,drab and boring yet well received critically.

saltysam · Post by **saltysam** » 09 Apr 2009, 20:24

A Beautiful Mind & Forrest Gump- these films won oscars,unbelievably! Ron Howard is a poor director imo.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 09 Apr 2009, 20:35

Forrest Gump is great IMO, very good film. A Beautiful Mind is also good but not much re-watch value.

Ransom, Apollo 13, Cocoon and Splash are also good but IMO Forrest Gump is his only great film. I've not seen Missing though. Howard does that annoying thing Speilberg does and thinks sentimentality is a clever thing to put in movies.