Bond 22 gearing up for pre-production

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bradavon wrote:Europeans make for great villians.
It's true. Look at the European Parliment for proof.
I agree with Dragon it's Craig that makes these Bonds so good. He will be hard to match, when he does go.
Must be a tremendous amount of pressure on Craig to live up to his last performance. After just one film he's been hearing "BEST EVER BOND" which is something I don't think any of the others had to worry about. If QOS doesn't perform the very same people will verbally castrate him - as they did when he won the part.
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Markgway wrote:It's true. Look at the European Parliment for proof.
I didn't mean that exactly :D.
Markgway wrote:Must be a tremendous amount of pressure on Craig to live up to his last performance.
True. I reckon he can pull it off.
Markgway wrote:After just one film he's been hearing "BEST EVER BOND" which is something I don't think any of the others had to worry about.
Moore had a lot to live up to after Connery and Lazenby before him.
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Mark, I think after Goldeneye some said Brosnan was a fine Bond, to match Connery.

I saw this article on Digital Spy, there wont be catchphrases and cheesy jokes, pleased about this as they won't be making the film to cheesy.
Digital Spy wrote:The director of Quantum Of Solace has dropped some of James Bond's most famous catchphrases as part of a move to bring the secret agent into the 21st Century.

In his 22nd screen adventure, the operative will not make his classic introduction "The name is Bond, James Bond". Nor will he order his martinis, shaken not stirred.

Director Marc Forster told The Independent: "There was a 'Bond, James Bond' in the script. There are several places where we shot it as well, but it never worked as we hoped.

"I just felt we should cut it out, and Barbara Broccoli and Michael Wilson (the film's producers) agreed, and Daniel [Craig], agreed too. It's nice to be open-minded about the Bond formula. You can always go back to them later on."

Editor of the online 007 Magazine, Graham Rye, said that Craig is much closer to creator Ian Fleming's vision of the British agent.

"The Bond films had become tired and needed reinvigorating. Rather than going away from Fleming I think the producers have gone back to him," he said.

The movie will get its first public screening at the BFI London Film Festival at the end of next month.
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Can't say those particular catchphrases ever bothered me.

It was the bad puns and innuendos I disliked.
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I think they've got rid of those too, for now.
The catchphrases "shaken not stirred" etc are iconic and with good reason, but I dont think they should be used again too quickly.
Although doesnt he say "The names Bond, James Bond" at the end of Casino Royale? I'm sure those are the last lines.
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I think they're great. It's not like you need to say them in a cheesy way. Yes Craig said "The name's Bond, James Bond" at the end of Casino Royale.

I hope Money penny returns at some point. All these bits are what makes Bond Bond. You don't have to remove them, when giving a reboot. I don't mind the innuendos either. Although they wouldn't work if Craig said them.
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True, I agree about the innuendo on both counts. Maybe they shouldnt be removed with a reboot, toned down maybe. I enjoyed them but as you say the cheesy stuff wouldnt work so well if Craig did it, he's meant to be closer to Flemming's Bond isnt he?
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Innuendos should only be uttered by Bond if he's being played by Sid James.
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Or Roger Moore.
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I loved the part in Casino Royale, where the bartender asks Bond:'Shaken or Stirred?'

'Do I look like I give a damn!?'
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I love it in You Only Twice when Dikko Henderson (Charles Gray) makes Bond a stirred not shaken martini.

"That was right?"
"Perfectly" says Connery, withering away!
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Connery should've judo chopped the crippled old fool.

How dare he??? :twisted:

EVERY spy on the planet knows 007 drinks Vodka Martini shaken NOT stirred. It's his bleedin' trademark.

What's the world come to when an assassin can't get his favourite tipple from an informant? :drunken:
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Yi-Long wrote:I loved the part in Casino Royale, where the bartender asks Bond:'Shaken or Stirred?'

'Do I look like I give a damn!?'
I liked that part too :D And then Bond says he'll have it with a slice of lemon and some other stuff, and everyone says "I'll have one of them too".
Le Chiffre is like "Does anyone want to play poker now?!" :D
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Quantum of Solace

Rated PG-13 for intense sequences of violence and action, and some sexual content.

As usual no mention of cuts or re-rating.

No word from the BBFC yet.
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Has anyone else heard the new Bond theme song? Madonna will be relieved. Now Die Another Day is no longer the worst. It's tuneless drivel performed by pumpkin-faced wierdo Jack White and sub-Leona Lewis R&B warbler Alicia Keys. Both of whom sound like cats being stood on. Talk about amateur night. Seriously it's THAT bad. It's like a parody of a bad Bond song and makes Chris Cornell's effort sound like a friggin' masterpiece. When the cheesy-sounding guitar twangs kicked in I didn't know whether to laugh or cry.
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Heard it. Cant say I love it, but it's definately not as bad as Madonna's 'attempt'.

I quite liked Chris Cornell's song. Not a 'classic', but certainly good enough.

I would have liked a more classic sounding song, with maybe the vocals of Katie Melua or Norah Jones or something. They kinda have that classic silky sulky smooth sound, to provide something more 'classy' and calm.

I dont care for Alicia Keys. Her first song was good, her 2nd song was OK, but TBh she sounds too much the same in everything she does, and I HATE it when singers only go for the long exaggerated stuff, instead of just singing a good song.
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It sounds fine to me, it sounds very "Living Daylights" in places. Most Bond songs serve their purpose and no more.
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Well I hate it. It sounds god-awful. Not a patch on "You Know My Name"!
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bradavon wrote:It sounds fine to me
I swear to christ you disagree with me just for the sake of it. How could anyone like that shite? It's not fit to lick The Living Daylights' crud-covered boots. I couldn't come up with as bad a song as that if I tried. Oasis said they had a tune that would make for a good Bond song and criticized the producers' ultimate choice. I thought they were being churlish. Now I believe they were spot on. The worst song out of 22 efforts and 46 years of the series but Brad thinks it's "fine". I despair. :roll:
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Markgway wrote:I swear to christ you disagree with me just for the sake of it. How could anyone like that shite? It's not fit to lick The Living Daylights' crud-covered boots. I couldn't come up with as bad a song as that if I tried. Oasis said they had a tune that would make for a good Bond song and criticized the producers' ultimate choice. I thought they were being churlish. Now I believe they were spot on. The worst song out of 22 efforts and 46 years of the series but Brad thinks it's "fine". I despair. :roll:
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Not a patch on You Know My Name, not as bad as the execrable Die Another Day.
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Markgway wrote:I swear to christ you disagree with me just for the sake of it.
WTF! You really do have a massive ego don't you :?. Do you reckon I really give a fuck what you think? Trust me I don't. I was in a car crash last Thursday and my car is written off (I'm thankfully fine), really I don't give a stuff if you like it or not.

So in other words, I'm not allowed to say it's fine, just because Lord Gway happens to dislike it. Right okay then.

Like I said, it's sounds fine. I've heard worse Bond theme songs. It would've been interesting to hear Amy Winehouse's version though, oh well.
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Brad, this board is your life. Of course you care what the rest of us think. I'm sorry about your crash, but that has nothing to do with it. I wish I could go back in time to post "I love the new Bond theme" just to see what you'd come up with? I wouldn't want everyone to agree with me all of the time. The forum would become boring. But it seems like everytime I make a post you follow it with something polar. I didn't like the DAD song because the style wasn't my up of cha. But the QOS song is actually inept. It's amateurish and badly done. Most Bond themes have a quality of production. This one sounds like it was a one-take demo done in someone's bedroom. Put aside your animosity toward me and listen to it again. Tell me I'm wrong. And I'm now wishing Whinehouse had gotten the contract.
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So what are people's top 3 Bond songs?

Me?

1. We Have All The Time In The World
2. A View To A Kill
3. Licence To Kill
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1. We Have All The Time In The World
2. You Only Live Twice
3. Goldfinger
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