The Godfather Trilogy: Original (2001) vs. Remastered (2008)

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 09 Jun 2008, 23:36

Yes. I think so.

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 09 Jun 2008, 23:43

Shingster wrote:
Anyway, calm down, man. I did't say anything about your girlfriend, I said the new transfer looks shit.
WTF? Someone posts on an internet forum that they think an opinion you expressed is wrong and all of a sudden they're making an angry rant against you?

I'm afraid you're alone there making a big deal of this. I was just expressing an opinion with intentional strong wording. But I was a bit surprised that you tried tell me I shouldn't be telling my opinion, and that it was ignorant of me to publicly post such thoughts. To me it sounded like you took this a bit too serious, instead of enjoying the debate, which is why I jokingly said "Anyway, calm down, man. I didn't say anything about your girlfriend, I said the new transfer looks shit."

Shingster wrote: Is your life really that charmed that you can't handle straightforward debate?

Comoon Shing. You know I have never taken offence on this board (or any other) and constantly try to start debates. Not even Brad (:D) has ever got on my nerves.

Shingster wrote: If you want me to go into more detail on this, I can.

That would be nice.

Thanks for the screencap demonstration. That was interesting.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 10 Jun 2008, 00:27

HungFist wrote:But I was a bit surprised that you tried tell me I shouldn't be telling my opinion, and that it was ignorant of me to publicly post such thoughts.

Shingster does that a lot, clearly his brain is so full knowledge, little folk like us cannot compare

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HungFist wrote:Not even Brad (:D) has ever got on my nerves.

I think I may have done once, but we won't go there

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Shingster · Post by **Shingster** » 10 Jun 2008, 03:55

HungFist wrote:I'm afraid you're alone there making a big deal of this. I was just expressing an opinion with intentional strong wording. But I was a bit surprised that you tried tell me I shouldn't be telling my opinion, and that it was ignorant of me to publicly post such thoughts.

Well that wasn't my intention, sorry. I merely wanted to point out that just flippantly saying something along the lines of "this transfer is crap, it's contrast boosted, etc" was simply - from technical side of things - wrong. The point I was so clumsily trying to make is that you were taking your own personal subjective tastes when it comes to DVD transfers, and was condemning the remaster without taking a step back an asking yourself objectively if maybe the transfer is supposed to look that way. You then of course challenged my own comments, so naturally I had to back them up with that long-ass technical post. Anyway, I can assure you that at no point was I even remotely close to getting wound up.

Comoon Shing. You know I have never taken offence on this board (or any other) and constantly try to start debates. Not even Brad (:D) has ever got on my nerves.

Oh I know you never take offence, my comment was meant to mean that if I, or anyone else on these boards challenge your opinions boldly, it doesn't mean they're all pissed off and going for the jugular. Anything written in print seems harsher than intended, it's too impersonal a medium.

That would be nice.

Thanks for the screencap demonstration. That was interesting.

I might post some further thoughts on the comparison grabs tomorrow, but tbh brad's goading really IS beginning to piss me off now, so you'll have to forgive me if I decide to give this thread a wide birth from here on out!

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 10 Jun 2008, 07:43

What are the red/blue spots on the image?

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 10 Jun 2008, 09:08

No problem, Shing. I sometimes tend to make references to technical stuff that I don't really know much about and get the facts wrong. I also have a bad habit of trying to read people's minds... and think I'm successful at it.

Shingster wrote:Anything written in print seems harsher than intended, it's too impersonal a medium.

That's true. The one time I can remember almost getting pissed was when people were blaming me for being dead serious in the dvdmystere thread when I really wasn't. It was a ridiculous situation (Fuck you assholes, I'm not serious. I'm totally calm, do you hear me!!!

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grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 10 Jun 2008, 12:34

The remastered image looks much better now I loook at it.

Kris · Post by **Kris** » 12 Jun 2008, 15:55

Personally I thought the restoration looked fantastic as soon as I saw the comparisons. As I understand it, the film is supposed to have extreme blacks and golden hues, a bit like 300 I guess. You can see the deep blacks in the old release, especially in the second and fourth caps of the first film, but the muted colours ruin the look and render the blacks kind of pointless.

As mentioned, the old release was also noise-reduced (I think it was one of the early Lowry jobs). Can't wait for the Blu-ray release.

dvdvision · Post by **dvdvision** » 22 Jun 2008, 08:57

Damn on your last example, the whites are burned, getting detail off the shirt in the remasterizado version.
It's just like the Terminator remaster in HD, all whites are burned. Could be done at the encoding stage thought.