Gohatto: Shochiku (R2J) vs. Studio Canal (R2FR)

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 11 May 2006, 15:42

Shochiku: 1:40:17 NTSC (top)
Studio Canal: 1:36:43 PAL (bottom)

Studio Canal has some nasty cropping and the colors may be slightly "off" at times, but the sharpness is so much better that I don't really care. Irritating edge enhancement, though. But, I haven't watched the whole dvd yet, so this is no definitive comparison.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 11 May 2006, 15:48

Yep, apart from some edge-enhancement the StudioCanal looks better IMO.

BiscLimpkit · Post by **BiscLimpkit** » 11 May 2006, 18:34

That is some killer edge-enhancement yo.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 12 May 2006, 02:16

Can someone explain to me what edge-enhancement is?

I'd vote for the Studio Canal; much better, though it almost looks too sharp.

Shame it's slightly cropped on the left.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 12 May 2006, 02:26

Awesome, good chance that the R2UK release from Momentum uses the Studio Canal transfer (almost all my other Momentum DVDs do). I'll buy that.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 12 May 2006, 02:32

Can someone explain to me what edge-enhancement is?

Edge-enhancement comes from a sharpening filter that is added to a transfer in order to improve the look of a DVD on smaller screens.

While it does improve perceived picture quality on <28" screens, it is very annoying on big screens.

Edge-enhancement is often seen as a white halo around the edge of objects.

It has plagued DVD for years and is often used to hide the lack of detail that can be found in non-HD prints.

Edge-enhancement increases grain levels and contrast levels. It also makes print damage more noticeable.

http://www.videophile.info/Guide_EE/Page_01.htm

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 12 May 2006, 02:52

@Mark:

Examples of edge-enhancement in this very subforum:
-Musa: PA cap N°2, top of the carriage. PA last cap, top of the castle.
-Swordsman: FS last cap, under Sam Hui's sword.
-OUATIC 3: HKV cap N°2, around Rosie Kwan's chin.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 12 May 2006, 03:00

Yup, highly likely that the Momentum DVD uses the Studio Canal master.

source wrote:A multi-picture output deal has also been confirmed with
Studio Canal. In the agreement, Momentum will distribute
six English language productions to which Studio Canal
holds the U.K. rights. The titles include Simpatico (starring
Nick Nolte, Jeff Bridges and Sharon Stone), Cecil B. Demented (directed by John Waters), Weight of Water (starring
Sean Penn and Catherine McCormack), Gohatto (starring Takeshi Kitano) and Bruiser (starring Jason Flemyng). The
agreement also covers non-English language films for which Studio Canal holds the rights for the U.K. Additional
titles will come through existing deals with U.K. production house Company Pictures, Canada’s Serendipity Point Films
and Alliance Atlantis’ in-house production slate.

I also found these screen caps of it.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 12 May 2006, 04:55

Thanks for the explaination Tom.

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 12 May 2006, 14:02

EvaUnit02 wrote:Yup, highly likely that the Momentum DVD uses the Studio Canal master.
source wrote:A multi-picture output deal has also been confirmed with
Studio Canal. In the agreement, Momentum will distribute
six English language productions to which Studio Canal
holds the U.K. rights. The titles include Simpatico (starring
Nick Nolte, Jeff Bridges and Sharon Stone), Cecil B. Demented (directed by John Waters), Weight of Water (starring
Sean Penn and Catherine McCormack), Gohatto (starring Takeshi Kitano) and Bruiser (starring Jason Flemyng). The
agreement also covers non-English language films for which Studio Canal holds the rights for the U.K. Additional
titles will come through existing deals with U.K. production house Company Pictures, Canada’s Serendipity Point Films
and Alliance Atlantis’ in-house production slate.
I also found these screen caps of it.

http://images.reviewer.co.uk/screenshot ... tto003.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v716/ ... anal1a.jpg

http://images.reviewer.co.uk/screenshot ... tto002.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v716/ ... anal3a.jpg

Looks like the same transfer (same framing). The difference in colours, brightness etc. is probably caused by incorrect dvd-player settings. I have actually seen the UK disc with my own eyes and even though I can't remember how it looked like it sure didn't look like those caps. So, I think Momentum is a safe bet (and also very cheap).

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 12 May 2006, 14:15

I think Monumentum is a safe bet

Dude... "Monumentum"..."Combining"... Your finnish origins are really showing today.

Minä en ymmärrä suomea, but still... Adding syllables in the middle of words is typically finnish.

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 12 May 2006, 14:31

Tom2681 wrote:
I think Monumentum is a safe bet
Dude... "Monumentum"..."Combining"... Your finnish origins are really showing today.

Minä en ymmärrä suomea, but still... Adding syllables in the middle of words is typically finnish.

One day, I will lear to write.

Still doesn't beat J.J Abrahams...

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 16 Jun 2006, 21:39

My good friend Mr. Isaksson just confirmed Momentum is indeed a port of Studio Canal.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 16 Jun 2006, 21:43

I read "My good friend Michael Jackson...".
I need to get some sleep...