R1 Sympathy for Mr Vengeance - definitive English release?

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 26 Sep 2005, 03:58

I found this up for pre-order up on hkflix. The R1 release of Sympathy for Mr Vengeance by Tartan USA.

Specs:-
# Anamorphic Widescreen
# DTS Digital Surround
# Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround
# Director's Audio Commentary
# "Making Of" Documentary (30 mins.)
# First Look At "Sympathy For Lady Vengeance"
# Photo Gallery
# Cast/Crew Info.
# Trailers
# DVD-9

Hopefully this is a film>NTSC transfer, but knowing Tartan it could possibly be a film>NTSC>PAL>NTSC transfer.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 26 Sep 2005, 08:25

That looks the same as the recent CE from Tartan UK to me, just on R1

BiscLimpkit · Post by **BiscLimpkit** » 26 Sep 2005, 12:54

If this is a true NTSC transfer then I might get this...

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 26 Sep 2005, 13:13

Whats up with the R2 CE Bisc/Eva?

BiscLimpkit · Post by **BiscLimpkit** » 26 Sep 2005, 17:01

I believe that it is another PAL to NTSC conversion.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 26 Sep 2005, 18:04

OK. Didnt know that

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 23 Nov 2005, 22:55

The new Tartan R1 has gotten a solid review - DVD specs wise on dvdtalk.

dvdtalk wrote:Video: 4/5

Sympathy For Mr. Vengeance is presented in its original aspect ratio of 2.35.1 widescreen and this transfer is enhanced for anamorphic playback. Black levels look nice and deep and don't break up at all save for one or two instances of really mild mpeg compression showing up once or twice. Edge enhancement is kept to a minimum, and there isn't any heavy line shimmering present to complain about, only some typically mild instances. The color scheme comes through very nicely on this transfer, the reds and greens looking especially bold without bleeding into the surrounding colors on the screen. There's a pretty decent level of both foreground and background detail and aside from a few instances where you'll pick up on some natural looking film grain there isn't any serious print damage to note either.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 24 Nov 2005, 19:04

The guys at DVD Talk now what they're talking about. As it won't suffer from NTSC to PAL conversion it should be sweet.

It's a pity the Making Of. seems to be missing but -

A: Big deal
B: I suspect he's using a review disc!

The R1 cover art is lovely too.

ReconFive · Post by **ReconFive** » 24 Nov 2005, 19:10

Well, just thought i'd input that there is nothing wrong with the Korean R3.
Very good picture, sound, and subs.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 24 Nov 2005, 19:32

No English subs on the extras though. Enough said for me!

Sure you're going to say but the film is more important. Of course it is but if I can have everything subbed with decent quality then I'll get that version.

I'd buy the R1 now.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 24 Nov 2005, 19:38

ReconFive wrote:Well, just thought i'd input that there is nothing wrong with the Korean R3.
Very good picture, sound, and subs.

But the R1 (and the R2 CE) has a subbed commentary. As far as I know the R3K SE has no English subs on extras.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 24 Nov 2005, 19:45

I have never got thru a subbed commentary, all I have trioed were awful to get the hang of and they all meld into baddness, no matter who is speaking

still the films well worth getting and there is a new Korean dvd out maybe thats even better ? no subs on extras I am sure,.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 24 Nov 2005, 19:56

romerojpg wrote: still the films well worth getting and there is a new Korean dvd out maybe thats even better ? no subs on extras I am sure,.

If there's no English subs on the extras disc then it's nothing but an expensive coaster IMO.

romerojpg wrote:I have never got thru a subbed commentary, all I have trioed were awful to get the hang of and they all meld into baddness, no matter who is speaking

I've never bothered trying to "read" a subbed commentary, but they're still nice to have.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 24 Nov 2005, 19:59

Yup I never watch extras in another language now if no subs, some may be amazing and well worth seeing, but with no subs no way

Sometimes getting the films early is a bad thing as wait a long time and a better version may pop up

but waiting is a killer sometimes.

memetic · Post by **memetic** » 25 Nov 2005, 13:45

More importantly do the "signs" have English subs? I'm meaning the three letters that appear in the film and are not subbed on the Korean disc.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 25 Nov 2005, 16:55

Ahhh yes that bugged me now you mention it

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 25 Nov 2005, 18:25

Are they really important then?

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 25 Nov 2005, 18:35

No idea as they were not subbed on my copy

they seemed to be a fairly big part of the plot mind you as they were dwelled on if I remember correctly. I could be wrong and they may be shopping lists.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 25 Nov 2005, 19:14

What signs are you guys talking about ?
When are they displayed ?

I'm pretty sure my French dvd has subs for everything.
I could provide a translation...

memetic · Post by **memetic** » 26 Nov 2005, 02:49

I remember three important letters. In all three letters you can guess what they are for but it'd be nice to know what they actually say.

The first letter I think was him being fired from his job. I don't recall an actual scene where it covers this (except in past-tense) and I'm guessing that's what the letter was saying.

The second letter, his sister's suicide note. Love to know what it said.

The last letter, which is stabbed into Song Kang-ho's chest at the end of the film, was presumably just some announcement from the terrorists but it'd be nice to know what it said.

If you're able to find a translation Tom that'd be great. Otherwise does anyone know if these are translated on the Tartan discs?

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 26 Nov 2005, 11:22

Translation below:

The "You're Fired" letter isn't translated when it first appears (because there's no shot showing the words).

It's only translated when his sister finds it in his jacket.
It reads:
"Indemnités de licenciement" (in french).
I'm not sure of the exact translation in english but it's the money they give you when they fire you.

The suicide note says:
"Kidnapping is a horrible thing"
"If you did it for me..."
"Whatever happens, return her to her family".
"I love you. Goodbye."

The last letter is titled "Sentence". (which is the same kind of letter that Bae Doo-Na was writing on her computer when we first saw her).

memetic · Post by **memetic** » 26 Nov 2005, 16:15

Thanks for going to the trouble of finding that Tom. Now I finally know what it says. :thumbright:

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 26 Nov 2005, 16:40

@ Tom:

Indemnités de licenciement is "Severance pay" in English then:

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=severance

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 26 Nov 2005, 16:57

@Brad:

Probably is, yes.
My vocabulary is very poor in this area.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 26 Nov 2005, 17:12

That's what we call it.