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The Crow: BD Comparison
Posted: 14 Oct 2011, 09:20
by Markgway
Re: The Crow: BD Comparison
Posted: 17 Oct 2011, 01:02
by bradavon
Thanks. At least the UK hasn't been tinkered with in the way the USA one has. I'd buy the USA one though because the UK has obvious flaws and the Japanese (whilst the best) will cost a bomb.
I'm happy with my R1 SE though.
Re: The Crow: BD Comparison
Posted: 17 Oct 2011, 04:44
by Markgway
The UK and JP discs are obviously taken from the same print; the USA disc a newer master.
The differences in the framing are quite apparent and variable.
Overall the JP is sharper (let's discount the UK because of the PAL speedup and 1080i factors)
For me the USA wins on Caps #1, 2, 5, 7, 8, 10, 11, 12.
....and the JP on #3, 4, 6, 9.
I'm sure others here will disagree...

Re: The Crow: BD Comparison
Posted: 17 Oct 2011, 11:08
by drees5761
How can you have PAL speedup if its HD?
Re: The Crow: BD Comparison
Posted: 17 Oct 2011, 12:58
by bradavon
I believe because whilst technically obviously it's not PAL speed up (HD isn't PAL!) but HD can just as easily run 4% fast as anything else can.
Re: The Crow: BD Comparison
Posted: 17 Oct 2011, 13:08
by Keung
The UK BD is fine for me.
Re: The Crow: BD Comparison
Posted: 17 Oct 2011, 17:31
by luckystars
Japanese disc is easily the best (tech specs + USA is horribly boosted to fuck)
UK is a good compromise for the £££
Re: The Crow: BD Comparison
Posted: 17 Oct 2011, 20:36
by saltysam
i'll stick with my japanese disc.
Re: The Crow: BD Comparison
Posted: 17 Oct 2011, 22:29
by luckystars
Is the film that great? Serious question...
Re: The Crow: BD Comparison
Posted: 17 Oct 2011, 22:38
by bradavon
It's a decent action film. It's no masterpiece but is as good as many Arnie films.
Re: The Crow: BD Comparison
Posted: 18 Oct 2011, 01:09
by Markgway
luckystars wrote:Is the film that great? Serious question...
No, but I remember it being good.
I'll pick up the Lionsgate BD when it goes under $10.
Re: The Crow: BD Comparison
Posted: 18 Oct 2011, 19:33
by Shingster
drees5761 wrote:How can you have PAL speedup if its HD?
If it's interlaced (1080i) then it runs at PAL or NTSC speed (PAL in this case because it's a UK release).
Re: The Crow: BD Comparison
Posted: 19 Oct 2011, 01:05
by bradavon
How does that work? Interlaced just means every other line is a black line.
Re: The Crow: BD Comparison
Posted: 19 Oct 2011, 02:40
by gasteropod
1080i films are usually 25fps I believe.
Re: The Crow: BD Comparison
Posted: 19 Oct 2011, 10:11
by drees5761
Shingster wrote:drees5761 wrote:How can you have PAL speedup if its HD?
If it's interlaced (1080i) then it runs at PAL or NTSC speed (PAL in this case because it's a UK release).
Thanks Shingster..didn't know that!
Re: The Crow: BD Comparison
Posted: 20 Oct 2011, 03:13
by Shingster
bradavon wrote:How does that work? Interlaced just means every other line is a black line.
Interlaced video is when you take two fields (one made up of odd lines in a frame, one made up of the even lines in a frame) and show them fast enough that the eye perceives them as one complete frame. Each field of 1080i is 540 lines of picture and 540 of black alternated fast enough your eye perceives a 1080 line "frame" (which in essence is how 576i and 480i works). 60Hz and 50Hz are the speeds of 1080i (corresponds to the 30fps of NTSC and 25fps of PAL).
Re: The Crow: BD Comparison
Posted: 20 Oct 2011, 05:21
by Markgway
@ Shing:
Out of interest how do you feel about the image comparison?
For me both the JP and US discs have their merits, but the USA edges it.
Re: The Crow: BD Comparison
Posted: 20 Oct 2011, 20:35
by bradavon
Thanks Shing. I knew most of it but not the last sentence.
Re: The Crow: BD Comparison
Posted: 21 Oct 2011, 05:36
by Shingster
Markgway wrote:@ Shing:
Out of interest how do you feel about the image comparison?
I think the USA disc looks DNR'd and very poorly encoded, not sure which release has the more faithful framing/colour balance, but I am sure that Liosngate should have done a much better job with their release.
Re: The Crow: BD Comparison
Posted: 22 Oct 2011, 23:10
by DangerousLeeHandsome
Id be happy with either JP or US discs but the real determining factor is the price and for $10 at walmart, u cant beat the Lionsgate edition!
plus it has a Proyas commentary that I quite enjoyed.
Re: The Crow: BD Comparison
Posted: 22 Oct 2011, 23:37
by bradavon
Agreed, price is a major factor. Especially when the quality is "roughly" the same. Over here the UK disc would be much cheaper than US one. It's a pity we got such a shit disc.