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Web Of Death Wellgo Blu-Ray

Posted: 05 Mar 2011, 19:38
by saltysam

Re: Web Of Death Wellgo Blu-Ray

Posted: 05 Mar 2011, 20:43
by HungFist
Sam's back with screencaps. Awesome :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:

Re: Web Of Death Wellgo Blu-Ray

Posted: 05 Mar 2011, 20:57
by oldeschool17
Is it just me or does this blu ray look like shit?

Re: Web Of Death Wellgo Blu-Ray

Posted: 05 Mar 2011, 21:07
by saltysam
oldeschool17 wrote:Is it just me or does this blu ray look like shit?
it's soft looking but that could inherent to the film stock used.i've never seen the dvd so can't compare.Maybe it's been DNR'ed or it's an upscale :thumbs:

Re: Web Of Death Wellgo Blu-Ray

Posted: 05 Mar 2011, 23:22
by luckystars
Looks like it's from a 16mm neg :D

Re: Web Of Death Wellgo Blu-Ray

Posted: 06 Mar 2011, 01:22
by Markgway
Doesn't look good to me... but then I'm starting to wonder whether I have a fucking clue what I'm talking about as almost every Hong Kong film capped looks like smudgy no-detail pants. :?

And what's with the compression?

Re: Web Of Death Wellgo Blu-Ray

Posted: 06 Mar 2011, 11:29
by luckystars
They're not that bad IMO. Soft image with obvios DVNR that has lost/smudged finer detail.

Not terrible, but they've over-processed an already unremarkable image.

Re: Web Of Death Wellgo Blu-Ray

Posted: 06 Mar 2011, 11:32
by saltysam
Markgway wrote:
And what's with the compression?
They aren't jpegs,they are in PNG format,captured and uploaded straight to imageshack.clicking on them gives you the full 1920 image (i think)...anyway PNG format is what i see a lot of BD caps taken in...

Re: Web Of Death Wellgo Blu-Ray

Posted: 06 Mar 2011, 15:13
by oldeschool17
luckystars wrote:They're not that bad IMO. Soft image with obvios DVNR that has lost/smudged finer detail.

Not terrible, but they've over-processed an already unremarkable image.
Well it obviously beats a 3rd gen boot or those compressed youku streams that fusubs decided to boot. For a Bluray, id expect much better. Does anybody have the Siren Visual DVD? I wouldn't be surprised if that dvd looked better.

Re: Web Of Death Wellgo Blu-Ray

Posted: 07 Mar 2011, 00:53
by Markgway
saltysam wrote:They aren't jpegs,they are in PNG format,captured and uploaded straight to imageshack.clicking on them gives you the full 1920 image (i think)...anyway PNG format is what i see a lot of BD caps taken in...
I noticed the caps were PNG, which should mean lossless, right?

So how come the image is compressed like that? :?

I really wish ALL Shaw Bros movies were handled by Media Blasters.

Re: Web Of Death Wellgo Blu-Ray

Posted: 07 Mar 2011, 08:10
by HungFist
Markgway wrote:
saltysam wrote:They aren't jpegs,they are in PNG format,captured and uploaded straight to imageshack.clicking on them gives you the full 1920 image (i think)...anyway PNG format is what i see a lot of BD caps taken in...
I noticed the caps were PNG, which should mean lossless, right?
Yes, and at this size it shouldn't even matter if they were jpg. If you see compression problems, then it should be the disc, not the caps.

Below is a comparison I made using my Yatterman BD. The png caps are the original versions. The first pair is png vs jpg at normal size. The second is png vs jpg at 400% zoom. Can you tell any difference at all between the caps?

upload/HungFist/Yatter1a.png
upload/HungFist/Yatter1b.jpg

upload/HungFist/Yatter2a.png
upload/HungFist/Yatter2b.jpg

Re: Web Of Death Wellgo Blu-Ray

Posted: 07 Mar 2011, 08:33
by luckystars
HungFist wrote:
Markgway wrote:
saltysam wrote:They aren't jpegs,they are in PNG format,captured and uploaded straight to imageshack.clicking on them gives you the full 1920 image (i think)...anyway PNG format is what i see a lot of BD caps taken in...
I noticed the caps were PNG, which should mean lossless, right?
Yes, and at this size it shouldn't even matter if they were jpg. If you see compression problems, then it should be the disc, not the caps.

Below is a comparison I made using my Yatterman BD. The png caps are the original versions. The first pair is png vs jpg at normal size. The second is png vs jpg at 400% zoom. Can you tell any difference at all between the caps?

upload/HungFist/Yatter1a.png
upload/HungFist/Yatter1b.jpg

upload/HungFist/Yatter2a.png
upload/HungFist/Yatter2b.jpg

jpegs are softer :thumbs:

Re: Web Of Death Wellgo Blu-Ray

Posted: 07 Mar 2011, 09:02
by HungFist
luckystars wrote:jpegs are softer :thumbs:
:icon_suspect:

Well, I know I have bad eyes. But let's test this just for fun.
upload/HungFist/Yattermaaaaan1.png
upload/HungFist/Yattermaaaaan2.png
upload/HungFist/Yattermaaaaan3.png
upload/HungFist/Yattermaaaaan4.png

Now, which one of those 4 png caps was originally jpg and then converted back to png with all the quality lost? :D

Re: Web Of Death Wellgo Blu-Ray

Posted: 07 Mar 2011, 09:40
by luckystars
HungFist wrote:
luckystars wrote:jpegs are softer :thumbs:
:icon_suspect:

Well, I know I have bad eyes. But let's test this just for fun.
upload/HungFist/Yattermaaaaan1.png
upload/HungFist/Yattermaaaaan2.png
upload/HungFist/Yattermaaaaan3.png
upload/HungFist/Yattermaaaaan4.png

Now, which one of those 4 png caps was originally jpg and then converted back to png with all the quality lost? :D

Number 3, but it's barely noticeable :D

Re: Web Of Death Wellgo Blu-Ray

Posted: 07 Mar 2011, 14:10
by HungFist
luckystars wrote:
HungFist wrote:
luckystars wrote:jpegs are softer :thumbs:
:icon_suspect:

Well, I know I have bad eyes. But let's test this just for fun.
upload/HungFist/Yattermaaaaan1.png
upload/HungFist/Yattermaaaaan2.png
upload/HungFist/Yattermaaaaan3.png
upload/HungFist/Yattermaaaaan4.png

Now, which one of those 4 png caps was originally jpg and then converted back to png with all the quality lost? :D

Number 3, but it's barely noticeable :D
ok, I gotta give it to you, good eyes :thumbs:

Re: Web Of Death Wellgo Blu-Ray

Posted: 07 Mar 2011, 14:47
by luckystars
:geek:

Re: Web Of Death Wellgo Blu-Ray

Posted: 07 Mar 2011, 16:47
by Markgway
Lol... but I did notice compression on Hung's PNG caps as well.

So I guess it affects all caps.

Re: Web Of Death Wellgo Blu-Ray

Posted: 13 Mar 2011, 21:47
by saltysam
Review here...states it's a 1080i transfer yet my player says it's 1080p :dontknow: weird

http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-Web-o ... 53/#Review

Re: Web Of Death Wellgo Blu-Ray

Posted: 15 Mar 2011, 18:03
by tolpol
I only stumbled on these screenshots after I ordered the Blu-Ray and don't think I would've placed the order if I saw them first. Was hitting myself over the head I bought the disc without waiting for a review. However - the disc arrived today and it looks much better than the screenshots suggest. Looks comparable to Opium and the Kung Fu Master's HD transfer. Had the Australian dvd release by Siren - which was progressive PAL and most likely better than the IVL dvd - and the Blu-Ray really looks a LOT better. I'm well pleased.
It's a region free release, by the way.

Re: Web Of Death Wellgo Blu-Ray

Posted: 17 Mar 2011, 17:29
by oldeschool17
would you be able to post some screencaps of the siren disc for sake of comparison?

Re: Web Of Death Wellgo Blu-Ray

Posted: 19 Mar 2011, 09:47
by tolpol
Here's a dvd shot - same as the third shot in the first post :

http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/2411 ... h40m57.png

Re: Web Of Death Wellgo Blu-Ray

Posted: 19 Mar 2011, 10:58
by Markgway
Clearly the BD is sharper.

Re: Web Of Death Wellgo Blu-Ray

Posted: 23 Mar 2011, 16:39
by oldeschool17
tolpol wrote:Here's a dvd shot - same as the third shot in the first post :

http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/2411 ... h40m57.png
Thanks for posting