Dreamcast

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 08 Mar 2009, 21:42

I recently bought one off eBay with 3 controllers, 2 VMUs, Jet Set Radio, ChuChu Rocket!, and Toy Commander. I've since got Sonic Adventure 1 & 2, a vibration pack, SCART lead, and I am waiting for Space Channel 5 to arrive. I will be getting Rival Schools: Project Justice, Rez, and probably Shenmue 1 & 2.

So, any Dreamcast fans here? Anyone still got one? I never got one when they originally came out, but I wish I had, I'm really enjoying it, especially being able to play Jet Set Radio once again (I used to own Jet Set Radio Future when I had an Xbox).

Any games you recommend?

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 08 Mar 2009, 21:48

Don't the graphics look poor by today's standards or do they hold up well? Sure game play comes first though.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 08 Mar 2009, 22:14

I have one still, sadly it has been surpassed in everery way now, but last time I had it on I had a little joy from it

a few games refused to work sadly, guess age has not been to kind to my machine.

Yi-Long · Post by **Yi-Long** » 08 Mar 2009, 23:30

The graphics look 'poor' to today's standard, ofcourse, but they're on the level of PS2's, GameCube's and perhaps Wii's standard.

I had lots of fun with my Dreamcast. Sadly the laser is broken or just very bad now, so havent played it in a long while.

Why not just download the games instead of buying them btw!?

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 08 Mar 2009, 23:48

Wouldn't you need a hacked Dreamcast to do that or do they just burn to a CD? I still buy Audio CDs. They don't cost much and I like to own the product.

Yi-Long · Post by **Yi-Long** » 09 Mar 2009, 00:12

The protection on the DC was crap. so you can either download a 'boot-cd' which you run first, and after that you can run the downloaded game you want, OR some games already have that little boot-hack on them, so you dont even need the bootdisk to run it...

And yeah, they're just burned to CD's.

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 09 Mar 2009, 17:50

Yi-Long wrote:Why not just download the games instead of buying them btw!?

I like to own things

Just won Rez on eBay by the way

Yi-Long · Post by **Yi-Long** » 09 Mar 2009, 18:12

gasteropod wrote:
Yi-Long wrote:Why not just download the games instead of buying them btw!?
I like to own things

Just won Rez on eBay by the way

So!? Just download those games and you can OWN those illegal copies!
It's not like your money is going to the developers or anything.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 09 Mar 2009, 18:19

You can upgraxde your Dreamcast to Broadband capable while you are at it

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 09 Mar 2009, 18:21

Having a bootleg doesn't mean you own it. I'm with Gas on this one. Thanks for the info btw. Up until BD all copy protection has been utter rubbish.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 09 Mar 2009, 19:13

Well you can get the games for a pound, maybe 2

so its cheaper to buy them anyway, as by the time you spend a week downloading and burning it, you have wasted a few quids power doing that

and the fact many download versions suck badly and crash all the time and cut out massive chunks of the game to fit onto a cd, as theDreamcast did not put games on cds, they were a special larger version of a cd which held a few hundred MB's more.

So it pays to buy them for the pennies they cost I say.

Mind you a few games go for hundreds

the japanese ones are mental prices.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 09 Mar 2009, 19:43

Yeah I don't understand why people download shit when it only costs £2-3 to buy, obviously a lot doesn't though.

Were they really custom CDs Romero? They managed to increase CDs from 650Mb to 700Mb by decreasing the pitch depth but this didn't go any further. The PS1 definitely used standard CDs.

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 09 Mar 2009, 20:04

The games I like are fairly rare so certainly go for more than a couple of quid. Rival Schools: Project Justice went for £53 last week when I was bidding on it, for instance.

Yep the Dreamcast discs are proprietary and store more than CDs.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 09 Mar 2009, 20:12

GD-ROM'S Holding up to 1.2 GB

The rare games go for loads like Rival Schools, which never even got to UK shelves, most of the rarer titles sell for insanity cash.

Your average games are worthless, well the UK versions ussually are

saltysam · Post by **saltysam** » 09 Mar 2009, 20:35

We still have our Dreamcast somewhere,hasn't been used in ages though.it was a great console and i think my first foray onto the internet was with this (or that bush thing that came out)

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 09 Mar 2009, 20:49

Yup I joined Bullets on my Dreamcast

did not even have a keyboard, I had even worse spelling than I do now

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 09 Mar 2009, 21:05

romerojpg wrote:The rare games go for loads like Rival Schools, which never even got to UK shelves

I think it did, on April 12th/13th 2001, the one I'm bidding on is meant to be UK PAL.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 09 Mar 2009, 22:52

Ohh it was out I remember the reviews, but I never saw it on the shelves

probibly only made a limited set of copies of it.

Many games towards the end of the Dreamcast life were dumped onto the UK like turds, they would make internet games not even connectable to the net! making many of them pointless. The UK was totally shafted for games compared to America and Japan.

Hence why many turned to pirates, I know I got many copies which you could not get in the UK.

Yi-Long · Post by **Yi-Long** » 09 Mar 2009, 23:37

Sega completely screwed up the release of their Dreamcast and the games for the european market. A huge marketing disaster. Here in Holland they were only sold in special gameshops, whereas normally every toystore sells consoles and games.

Even years after it was out there was still a huge group of people who didnt know what a Sega Dreamcast was.

You need to buy Soul Calibur, Gassy. Metropolis Street Racing was great too.

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 10 Mar 2009, 00:23

I know Soul Calibur is meant to be dead good, but I don't see the point in getting it since Soul Calibur IV is available for the PS3, and when my mate brought that round I soon got irritated with it hahaha, so it'd just be that with drastically inferior graphics, surely

Rival Schools on the other hand, what a great beat 'em up. I used to own the first one for the PlayStation, never played the sequel before so I'm quite looking forward to getting it.

Yi-Long · Post by **Yi-Long** » 10 Mar 2009, 00:58

Many still feel SC was the best of the series. SC4 doesnt even have a story-mode I believe(!).

I dont think I've ever played Rival Schools, although I could be wrong.

BTW, arent there good quality Arcade emulators which can perfectly emulate Rival Schools and simular games!?

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 10 Mar 2009, 01:03

I don't know, I know there are various Dreamcast emulators available but they all seem too much trouble and glitchy and stuff, I'd much rather just play the original console version on a proper controller.

One of the things I loved about Rival Schools is how Japanese it was, and I've seen a vid on YouTube of all the special moves on the sequel and they're absolutely insane!

Have a look: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTuwPl_zcPo

Yi-Long · Post by **Yi-Long** » 10 Mar 2009, 01:37

Yeah, dreamcast emulators are sucky, I believe...

...which is why I asked about ARCADE-emulators

Wasnt Rival Schools released in the arcades!?

Some funny stuff in that clip. Every fighting game should have finishers.

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 10 Mar 2009, 02:26

...which is why I said 'I don't know'

Yeah I believe the Rival Schools games were originally in arcades.

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 11 Mar 2009, 23:07

Wow, Rez is immense, I played a demo of it back in the day for the PS2 but didn't appreciate it back then.

I won Rival Schools: Project Justice on eBay today, £39. Not bad, the price of a new PS3 game, and since I want this game more then that's fine