Source: http://www.trustedreviews.com/multimedi ... tration/p1There are some things you can see coming a million miles off...
The latest blow to the high street has been struck today with news the zavvi chain (formerly Virgin Megastores) has gone into administration. No notice has been placed on the (rather dishevelled) site as yet but a message posted on the main page last week hinted all wasn't well:
"A message to our customers 17.12.2008. We apologise for the ongoing supply problems that mean we are temporarily unable to accept orders at zavvi.co.uk. Remember you can still shop at our 125 zavvi stores across the UK and Ireland, where we continue to have good stock availability."
Since then however things have obviously taken a further turn for the worse and more than 2,363 permanent staff and 1,052 temporary staff will find their turkey tasting rather more dry tomorrow. That said zavvi stores will continue trading for the meantime with administrators looking to find a buyer for all or part of the business.
In a statement founding partners Simon Douglas and Steve Peckham admitted "We have done all that is possible to keep the business trading, but the problems encountered with [supplier] EUK, and particularly its recent failure, have been too much for the business to cope with."
Sadly, as I mentioned at the top of this story, you didn't need to be a genius to see this coming. After all, when the planet's most famous entrepreneur decides to ditch something there's probably a good reason why. Add to that the fact what was the UK's largest independent entertainment retailer (like Woolworths) had only recently considered starting an online download service and its outdated business practices really do become all too apparent. Indeed, speaking about the zavvi sale in September 2007 I went so far as to declare:
"All kudos here to Sir Rich. High street music retailing has been dying a death in recent years and with online sales booming and Apple adding WiFi access to iTunes direct from its new iPod touch player and iPhone it is likely to fall further still. Of course Mr Douglas may believe he has a brave new vision to shake off this high street malaise, but I find myself siding with the former crazy balloonist on this one. Fine move Sir."
Sometimes it sucks to be right
Zavvi into administration
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Zavvi into administration
It was shit anyway.
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Zavvi weren't too bad, they're nothing compared to the rubbish that was Woolies. I'm not gloating and am just saying it how it is.
Yi says it all really. Woolies didn't move with the times, sold everything you can imagine but virtually nothing of quality, they specialised in nothing. There prices can no longer compete.
HMV are example of how to move with the times, their online prices are much better than they used to be and they have a proper online presence. Woolies was a joke.
As usual Mark is over-dramatising things. People will always continue to meet face to face. There will also always be a market for a bricks and mortar shop. The little interesting specialised shops you cannot beat.
I only every buy clothes in shops. I want to try them on before buying. You just cannot do this online.
Yi says it all really. Woolies didn't move with the times, sold everything you can imagine but virtually nothing of quality, they specialised in nothing. There prices can no longer compete.
HMV are example of how to move with the times, their online prices are much better than they used to be and they have a proper online presence. Woolies was a joke.
As usual Mark is over-dramatising things. People will always continue to meet face to face. There will also always be a market for a bricks and mortar shop. The little interesting specialised shops you cannot beat.
I only every buy clothes in shops. I want to try them on before buying. You just cannot do this online.
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There are lots of shops I'd love to see go out of business btw. Especially those really pretentious extremely high-priced stored who sell stuff for large chunks of money and they hardly have anything in the store (like every pair of shoes or every hand bag has it's own 'platform', and that's pretty much it, with snobby stuck up 40 year old women with dyed hair who work there looking down on you).
Also, I've always been a huge comicbook/graphic novel fan, but a few years ago most comicbookstores were WAY overpriced (before people started ordering their comics themselfs through the internet so they wouldnt be scammed by the local comicbookstore), and it doesnt help that pretty much every comicbook-store owner seems to be a grade-A asshole, although ofcourse there are exceptions (luckily), so some of those stores I wouldnt miss either.
Pretty much every store that really overcharges their customers I hope goes down. I hate it. That's not how I would like to treat people, and it's not how I like to be treated either.
The internet is great. Just order it online! Ordered Midnight Club LA (360) for 14 euro, while it's still 55 euro here in the shops(!)
Also, I've always been a huge comicbook/graphic novel fan, but a few years ago most comicbookstores were WAY overpriced (before people started ordering their comics themselfs through the internet so they wouldnt be scammed by the local comicbookstore), and it doesnt help that pretty much every comicbook-store owner seems to be a grade-A asshole, although ofcourse there are exceptions (luckily), so some of those stores I wouldnt miss either.
Pretty much every store that really overcharges their customers I hope goes down. I hate it. That's not how I would like to treat people, and it's not how I like to be treated either.
The internet is great. Just order it online! Ordered Midnight Club LA (360) for 14 euro, while it's still 55 euro here in the shops(!)
I was there, the big BNB blackout of november, 2008. We lost many that day...
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Wel... if it's just a couple of bucks more expensive when buying in a store instead of online, I would probably just buy them in a local store (if the product is still sealed, cause some stores also open all their products so they can put the CD/DVD/BR/game behind the counter, and all the cases look like shit). But like I said, Midnight Club LA sealed for 14 euro from play-asia, or 55 euro in a local store: no contest.Markgway wrote:The overheads on running a consumer-based store are significantly higher than those for an on-line business. Prices are cheaper on-line because they can afford to be.
The local Free Record Shop is selling the GTA4 strategy-guide for 20 bucks. Online it's about 11 bucks orso at play.com.
I was there, the big BNB blackout of november, 2008. We lost many that day...
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You're wait out on BDs. They average £20-30.Markgway wrote:It's usually just a £1 or £2 extra in-store.
DVDs are much better than they used to be, although can still suck. I bought my brother Apocalypse Now SE for Xmas. It was £9.99 in store (good price) and £6.99 online (even better price). As I had no time to order online I went for the in store price.
They can use that "staff to pay" excuse as much as they like, the prices still don't add up. Not that I'd care if they did, that's their business not mine.
I was asking about their stores not who they replacedgasteropod wrote:How you didn't know that Zavvi replaced Virgin Megastores is beyond me lol.
Seriously I've ever seen one Virgin Mega Store in London. There's none anywhere near me. I think their "maybe" one in Bristol but I've never seen it.
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£15 a BD, WOW! What a bargain. £12.50 isn't too bad though. I'm guessing these are Sales prices, meaning they won't last so aren't really a good example anyway.Markgway wrote:Most are available at 2 for £30 in HMV or 2 for £25 in Zavvi.
EDIT: When HMV can charge £3 for a DVD, home come all they can offer for BDs is two for £30? Answer = It's a joke and has nothing to do with higher running costs.
That makes two people then.Markgway wrote:I live waaaay up north and even I've been in a London Virgin Megastore.
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