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Seven Swords: HK Blu-Ray vs HK DVD

Posted: 07 Aug 2008, 12:43
by tom2681

Posted: 07 Aug 2008, 17:31
by bradavon
Thanks Tom.

Which HK DVD do you have? The 1 Disc with DD5.1 or 2 Disc with DD5.1 and Full-rate DTS. The latter I imagine has a higher bitrate.

Posted: 07 Aug 2008, 19:51
by tom2681
Ah, yes.
I forgot that there were two versions. Sorry about that.
I've got the 2-discer with DTS.

And speaking about bitrate, the bitrate on this h.264 BD transfer seems to be incredibly high. My CPU can't even play the film in real-time.
That's the first time I've come across this problem with a Blu-Ray disc. 100% CPU usage.

Posted: 08 Aug 2008, 13:35
by eon
Looks good - shame there's no longer director's cut available though. :/ I felt the DVD version was way too cut - entertaining, but could've been better had we got the original 4 hour or whatever length movie it was meant to be.

Posted: 08 Aug 2008, 16:58
by bradavon
tom2681 wrote:Ah, yes.
I forgot that there were two versions. Sorry about that.
I've got the 2-discer with DTS.
Do you mean the 3 disc SE with DTS or the 2 Disc SE without DTS? -

http://www.dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=8432
tom2681 wrote:And speaking about bitrate, the bitrate on this h.264 BD transfer seems to be incredibly high. My CPU can't even play the film in real-time.
That's the first time I've come across this problem with a Blu-Ray disc. 100% CPU usage.
That's impressive. Does it play okay in your standalone?
eon wrote:Looks good - shame there's no longer director's cut available though. :/ I felt the DVD version was way too cut - entertaining, but could've been better had we got the original 4 hour or whatever length movie it was meant to be.
Agreed. It is a shame. The film shows lots of potential.

As such, we have to work with what we've got and that's a flawed buy enjoyable film. In it's current form I don't consider it a keeper.

Posted: 08 Aug 2008, 20:50
by tom2681
Definitely a 2-discer.
No DTS for me, then.

I don't know whether the BD will play on my Sony S300.
Haven't tried it yet. Will let you know when I do.

As for the DC, I believe the extra scenes were removed before post-production.
It's doubtful that we'll ever see them. But you never know...

Posted: 09 Aug 2008, 08:35
by bradavon
tom2681 wrote:I don't know whether the BD will play on my Sony S300.
Haven't tried it yet. Will let you know when I do.
It's worth trying it. There was a HD-DVD released that had a bitrate too high and it needed to be recalled. I forget which title it was.

Posted: 19 Aug 2008, 20:21
by tom2681
Seen it now.
Easily the best BD transfer I've ever seen.
Maybe even better than Pirates of the Caribbean 2.
The sound is perfect too. Crystal-clear + zero audio sync issues (most BDs are worthless when it comes to A/V sync).

If you've got this film on DVD (and if you like it at least a little bit), you really REALLY need to upgrade. Take my word for it.

Unbelievably good.

Posted: 19 Aug 2008, 20:35
by bradavon
tom2681 wrote:most BDs are worthless when it comes to A/V sync
I've yet to notice a BD or HD-DVD to be out of sync but then I rarely do.

Posted: 19 Aug 2008, 21:46
by tom2681
It takes special circumstances to notice A/V sync issues.
It depends on how focused you are when watching the film, and also on how big your screen is.

I remember watching Azumi 2 on a 32" TV and not noticing any problems. Now, on the 108"screen I can tell the sound is 0.1 second late.
You see ninjas hitting the floor and you have to wait a long time before you hear the "thud".

I can't understand why most people don't notice that the soundtracks on lots of their DVDs are slightly out-of-sync.
Just like I can't understand why some people can't notice obvious stunt doubles. :wink:

I guess each viewer watches his films in a different way.

Posted: 21 Aug 2008, 21:43
by bradavon
I never ever used to notice the Arnie stunt double during the T2 motorbike scene. I now notice it every time I've seen the scene recently. I was happier ignorant :( ;).

Please, no more screen grabs, ruining cinema 8).

Posted: 22 Aug 2008, 01:08
by tom2681
LD was devastated when I showed him that the one-shot corridor shoot-out in Hard-Boiled was in fact two separate shots. :D
You can actually see the cut if you're sensitive enough. It's quite obvious on the HK Vidéo (don't know about Tartan and DD).

Posted: 22 Aug 2008, 18:48
by bradavon
Dare I ask, any captures? Unlike T2 I don't consider Hard Boiled as good as most so won't be devastated like LD :D.

Posted: 22 Aug 2008, 20:42
by grim_tales
I love Hard Boiled so may notice what you said now about it, DAMN YOU TOM!!

:D