The Terminator: US Blu-Ray vs R1US SE DVD

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 10 Jul 2008, 12:26

https://www.bulletsnbabesdvd.com/forums/ ... RMBLU5.jpg
https://www.bulletsnbabesdvd.com/forums/ ... RMDVD5.jpg

With the increase in resolution, you should be able to read every single name in there. But not here.

Kinda like Superbit DVD vs regular DVD.
Useless.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 10 Jul 2008, 12:36

Seriously, WTF?! Sony really dropped the ball there.

Thanks Tom.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 10 Jul 2008, 13:10

Yeah, seriously.
This is a movie that should be re-scanned at 4K and restored completely.
Come on, Sony. Give it a Blade Runner-like makeover.

I don't buy that "It's a low-budget 20-year old movie so it's bound to look like crap" excuse.

IronMonkey · Post by **IronMonkey** » 10 Jul 2008, 13:42

Me neither.

That BD is terrible. I'll stick with my DVD thank you.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 10 Jul 2008, 16:02

Eva: Is there any chance you can add the Studio Canal HD-DVD and someone else the Kinowelt German HD-DVD please?

I'll look properly when I get home tonight.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 10 Jul 2008, 16:07

bradavon wrote:Eva: Is there any chance you can add the Studio Canal HD-DVD and someone else the Kinowelt German HD-DVD please?

You high?! Those are T2 discs!

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 10 Jul 2008, 16:09

He he good point. No not high. I just had a speedy look while at work.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 10 Jul 2008, 16:29

bradavon wrote:He he good point. No not high. I just had a speedy look while at work.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 10 Jul 2008, 16:40

These captures show what we knew already:

1. This looks like the DVD.
2. PCM + BD25 + MPEG2 = Shite!

It's a shame Sony don't seem interested in re-releasing it. I bet by the time we get it in Europe it will look better.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 10 Jul 2008, 17:24

bradavon wrote: 2. PCM + BD25 + MPEG2 = Shite!

Massive genralisation there, some can look superb on the exact same compression method and disc. Its not the disc, or codec they use, its how they encode it and use the space wise. But I am sure you know that.

Basically its becuase they are lazy sods, not becuase of the disc they used.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 10 Jul 2008, 18:42

romerojpg wrote:its how they encode it and use the space wise.

Fair point. Yes I did know that.

Can you name some examples which look fantastic and use? - PCM + BD25 + MPEG2. There aren't many, they look good at best.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 10 Jul 2008, 20:46

Kung-Fu Hustle looks brilliant apart from a couple of dark shots that show macroblocking. Is it a BD25, though? I'm not entirely sure.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 10 Jul 2008, 22:36

The American disc is, so I guess the rest are too:

http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/26302/kung-fu-hustle/

I never said they all look shit. What I actually said was, as a general rule it's not a good idea. As most know, except for Sony all the BD25s use MPEG4.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 11 Jul 2008, 00:36

It's hard to believe that one of those samples is BD.

And they dropped the original mono so it's overall worse(!)

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 11 Jul 2008, 01:16

Yeah, stick with your DVD. There's no point getting the BD period.

Even if you like the 5.1, it sounds like the Full-rate DTS on the R2J is still the best.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 11 Jul 2008, 15:03

bradavon wrote:Yeah, stick with your DVD. There's no point getting the BD period.

Well unless you have a MASSIVE screen

you will notice some difference, esspecially in compression in some shots. Smaller screens, even 40 inhces you will be hard pushed to get loads out of a HD transfer like that.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 11 Jul 2008, 15:53

I'll tell you if I see a difference on my 108" screen.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 11 Jul 2008, 16:04

surley you will.

chenlung · Post by **chenlung** » 12 Jul 2008, 09:57

The 5.1 is fucking shit on the R2 DVD.

HD's been a half disappointment overall - because of twats in the industry.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 12 Jul 2008, 12:12

chenlung wrote:The 5.1 is fucking awesome on the R2 DVD.

Agreed

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chenlung · Post by **chenlung** » 12 Jul 2008, 12:49

bradavon wrote:
chenlung wrote:The 5.1 is fucking awesome on the R2 DVD.
Agreed .

Those both instances pretty much sum you up

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bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 12 Jul 2008, 12:59

That I'm fucking awesome?

chenlung · Post by **chenlung** » 12 Jul 2008, 13:09

bradavon wrote:That I'm fucking awesome?

Na, that you like shite 5.1 mixes. Those gunshots are horrendously obvious.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 12 Jul 2008, 13:17

It depends. For example: I love the Terminator one but cannot stand most of Anchor Bay's (except for Halloween) 5.1 remixes or Fortune Star's either.

Anchor Bay's "Withnail and I" plus "A Long Good Friday" 5.1 remixs are so over the top it hurts your ears.

IronMonkey · Post by **IronMonkey** » 12 Jul 2008, 13:37

chenlung wrote:The 5.1 is fucking shit on the R2 DVD.

I couldn't have said it better myself.