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A 73-year-old Austrian is under arrest on suspicion of hiding his daughter in a cellar for 24 years and fathering seven children with her, police say.

"They are all in psychological care in a secure institution in a clinic here in this area," he said.

"They are being cared for individually - those between 12 and 16 years of age who grew up with their grandparents, and two boys who, when they came out yesterday with their mother, saw the daylight for the first time in their lives."

The three children who grew up with their grandparents were left at birth outside the house, the first accompanied by a note from Elisabeth in which she said she could not care for the baby herself.

The existence of the woman, believed missing since 1984 and now 42, emerged after a teenage child fell ill and had to be taken to hospital.
Read on: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7369851.stm

OMG! I'm always lost for words when such crimes come to light. It's staggering that things like this can happen.
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"There is not only one, but a number of rooms: one room to sleep in, one to cook, and there are also sanitation facilities," he said.

The floor is uneven and the hallway "very narrow" while the door is "very small", and one has to bend one's head to get through, he added.

"Everything is very, very narrow and the victim herself, the mother of these six or seven children, told us that this was being continually enlarged over the years," Mr Polzer said.

Rosemarie appears to have been unaware of the suspected crimes of her husband.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7370285.stm

Surely you'd notice your husband going into a secret room?
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Austrian 'admits daughter abuse':
A 73-year-old Austrian man has confessed to imprisoning his daughter in a cellar for 24 years and fathering her seven children, police have said.

He said Josef had told investigators that one of their children had died in infancy and that he had taken the body and thrown it into an incinerator in the building.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7371043.stm

Is no one else interested in discussing this news?
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I saw this story on the front page of the paper, it sounds a disgusting story :( It sounds like his daughter was a prisoner, that's awful :evil:
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That story is so monumentally fucked up that even I'm lost for words......
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It's hard to know where to start isn't it. The guy:

1. Locked his daughter up for 24 years
2. Repeatedly raped her
3. Forced her to bear 7 children
4. Literally threw one of them in an incinerator after they died shortly after being born
5. Forced two of the children to never see daylight
6. Didn't educate any of the kids
7. Didn't feed them or the daughter properly
8. Left 3 of the kids by the doorstep with notes forcibly written by the daughter

How did he decide which kids were allowed to live a "semi" normal life and which weren't?

The scary thing is, if one of the daughters hadn't got seriously ill this would've likely carried on. I find it really hard to believe the Mother knew "nothing at all".

I'm not a supporter of the death penalty at all but if there was ever a reason (after conviction) to execute someone this has to be it.
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I'd cut off his balls and let him bleed to death slowly.... :twisted:
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You missed another fucked up part thats not getting reported much, he raped the children as well! :roll:

He is to old for "punishment" now, I seriously dont expect much to be done.
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He'll probably get the 'mentally insane' treatment and be cared for for the rest of his life.
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romerojpg wrote:You missed another fucked up part thats not getting reported much, he raped the children as well! :roll:
I didn't realise that. Thanks.
romerojpg wrote:He is to old for "punishment" now, I seriously dont expect much to be done.
I doubt his age will have much affect on the outcome. He's going to jail.
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And so he should!
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romerojpg wrote:You missed another fucked up part thats not getting reported much, he raped the children as well! :roll:
Just when I thought it couldn't get worse.....

I hope there is a hell and that motherfucker burns in it.
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Police study old Fritzl sex case

The woman who claims she was raped by Mr Fritzl in 1967 told OOeN this week: "As soon as I saw his picture on TV I knew: It was him."

The paper reports that Linz police had also recorded Mr Fritzl as a suspect in two other sexual offences.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7380969.stm
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A young female Lodger! who use to live in the house with the sicko family said she saw people go down into the basement once in a while, it was off limits to her she said The old fucker also has used to take other men down with him, so you can only imagine what used to go on down there :roll:
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romerojpg wrote:A young female Lodger! who use to live in the house with the sicko family said she saw people go down into the basement once in a while, it was off limits to her she said The old fucker also has used to take other men down with him, so you can only imagine what used to go on down there :roll:
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What the hell is Scrable? Is that some Dutch perversion?

If some creepy old bastard told me to stay away from the cellar I know I'd be suspicious, but apparently it didn't occur to the guy who lodged in the house for TEN FUCKING YEARS that anything was amiss.... :roll:
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I didn't hear what Romero did but I did hear:

1. One lodger saw the father often going into the basement
2. Another heard tapping on the walls

I've thought about this and with that information alone, would it be enough to call the police? The police would need something more than that for a warrant. Sure they could knock on the door but that wouldn't find anything.
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Markgway wrote:What the hell is Scrable? Is that some Dutch perversion?

If some creepy old bastard told me to stay away from the cellar I know I'd be suspicious, but apparently it didn't occur to the guy who lodged in the house for TEN FUCKING YEARS that anything was amiss.... :roll:
Well you know, old people grow bulbs and all...

Maybe the lodger never saw Psycho
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The lodger heard banging coming from the cellar(!)
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Oh dear...
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Probably semantics, but I heard it was tapping.
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This is getting better and better or worse and worse depending on your POV.
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How could anyone think it's getting better?
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bradavon wrote:Probably semantics, but I heard it was tapping.
I recall him saying noises made like hitting a broom off the ceiling. Doesn't sound like tapping. You don't tap a broom do you?
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Maybe then. He heard something, that's important part.