Whisper of the Heart - R2J vs. R2UK vs. R3HK

Lourdes · Post by **Lourdes** » 07 Aug 2007, 15:18

R1, R2J & R2UK are progressive
R3HK is interlaced

Thanks to Shing for the R1 & R3HK caps.

R1 First, R2J Second, R2UK Third, R3HK Last

Subtitle Sample (IGNORE PQ):

Comparison:

Lourdes · Post by **Lourdes** » 07 Aug 2007, 15:19

This is the exact opposite of what I expected. I had to check I didn't get muddled up twice. I thought the R2UK would be brighter and a little more detailed when in fact it's the other way round. The R2J may be a little too warm but only a little and the colours on the R2Uk are much too cool.

Ah well, I wanted the R2UK for the English dub and I still have the R2J handy.

Shingster · Post by **Shingster** » 07 Aug 2007, 16:27

I've got a bunch of grabs from the r1DVD when I briefly had it in my possession and some matching grabs from the r3hk DVD (which I own). One or two of them are from a similar frame to the ones in your comparison.

What I'll do is upload them, post em here and you can take corresponding grabs if you want.

IIRC the R1 transfer is pretty much on par with those r2j grabs.

EDIT: What jpg settings you used to save them? I usually compress mine more than that, so I better check your settings first.

Kris · Post by **Kris** » 07 Aug 2007, 16:50

More of Optimum's tampering with the shitty smoothing and drab colours. They should be banned from encoding any more DVDs.

The R3 IVL disc looks closer to the R2, but it has some additional EE and the compression is not as good (grain is not as visible). Also it's interlaced, but I guess you get what you pay for ($5 shipped from CD-WOW.

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Lourdes · Post by **Lourdes** » 07 Aug 2007, 16:58

Shingster wrote:I've got a bunch of grabs from the r1DVD when I briefly had it in my possession and some matching grabs from the r3hk DVD (which I own). One or two of them are from a similar frame to the ones in your comparison.

What I'll do is upload them, post em here and you can take corresponding grabs if you want.

IIRC the R1 transfer is pretty much on par with those r2j grabs.

EDIT: What jpg settings you used to save them? I usually compress mine more than that, so I better check your settings first.

Sounds like a plan. Check the zip & info in the sticky. I resize + compress with that.

Shingster · Post by **Shingster** » 07 Aug 2007, 17:50

UNfortunately I don't have the r1 DVD in my possession anymore (I had borrowed it from a friend when it first came out and taken grabs with WinDVD to later compare with my HK DVD), so what I'll do is save them with the highest jpg settinhgs in photoshop, their should be no discernible difference from the original bmps then.

I'll take grabs from my r3hk DVD using your methods though, will do this later tonight.

While i'm thinking about it, do you have the r2j of Porco Rosso? I've read the r1 is superior to the r2j but not seen any comparison grabs. I've got the r1us here, so can set this up if you have the r2j.

Shingster · Post by **Shingster** » 07 Aug 2007, 18:09

Lourdes · Post by **Lourdes** » 07 Aug 2007, 21:28

Redone the comparison with your caps, bloody hassle matching them up and I'm assuming you just used PowerDVD or something.

Still. Comparing the results that we have shows that the R2J has ever so slightly more detail overall where some of the grain has been smoothed out on the R1. But because it's heavily windowboxed in places the R1 appears to have more detail and sharpness when scrutinising text and objects because there's more resolution given over to actual image. Both very close.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 07 Aug 2007, 23:34

R1 looks to be the winner. But I would be able to live with the R2UK if I had it. I might just get the R4 to see how that is.

Shingster · Post by **Shingster** » 08 Aug 2007, 02:07

Lourdes wrote:Redone the comparison with your caps, bloody hassle matching them up and I'm assuming you just used PowerDVD or something.

Lourdes · Post by **Lourdes** » 08 Aug 2007, 11:29

VDM isn't a DVD player so no subs, I juse use MPC for that.

They sharpened the hell out of the HK disc.

Shingster · Post by **Shingster** » 08 Aug 2007, 16:27

Yeah a real shame as it's not a bad transfer otherwise. The HK DVD is also DD2.0 only on the Japanese track, Whisper was the first Ghibli title to be shown with Dolby Digital in theatres, so it was the first Ghibli DVD to feature a 5.1 track (every other feckin release included it).