GitS: SAC - Solid State Society - R1 vs. R2J vs. R2UK

Lourdes · Post by **Lourdes** » 14 Jul 2007, 14:15

R1 & R2J are slightly more than 90% Progressive due to lots of CG but notice all the unflagged combing in the R2J caps.
R2UK is progressive

R1 Top, R2J Middle, R2UK Bottom.

Lourdes · Post by **Lourdes** » 14 Jul 2007, 14:22

The victor is quite clear, The R1 has DTS too.

slasher13 · Post by **slasher13** » 14 Jul 2007, 15:34

Nice one Lourdes, I believe the R1 is the 3 disk as well version, I wonder how the R2 UK will be compared to the r1

Lourdes · Post by **Lourdes** » 14 Jul 2007, 16:33

Yes the R1 is Film, Extras and OST.

Kris · Post by **Kris** » 15 Jul 2007, 00:47

Wow, what the hell is up with that aliasing? Not only does that alone make the R2 look like shit, but it has edge enhancement and is blurrier than the R1 as well.

What company did the encode on the R1?

Lourdes · Post by **Lourdes** » 15 Jul 2007, 10:29

It's done by Nightjar who do the best work in the US.

Kris · Post by **Kris** » 15 Jul 2007, 12:26

Awesome. Glad they dropped Ascent Media, the TV seasons were pretty bad.

Hopefully they'll use Nightjar for the big-name shows in the future.

Lourdes · Post by **Lourdes** » 20 Aug 2007, 09:55

Added the R2UK. Slightly more picture and completely progressive. Lower bitrate (5.7 vs. 6.7 and consider the extra resolution) so there's more artefacting than on the R1 and it looks a little smoothed out in places. The extra resolution adds slightly in places but on the whole the R1 is the one to have. Not that there's a huge amount of difference mind. Both have the same specs and script - although the sub presentation varies, R1 subs are yellow and normal sized, R2UK are big and white. The R2UK audio is sped up but not pitch corrected.
The HMV exclusive steel case is quite nice. Flimsier than plastic and the info on the back is a big sticker but I like it and it doesn't cost extra if you're paying (my copy was free).

This is going to be on BD eventually so no need to be too fussy. Both releases are quite close and the PQ of whatever master they all used is fairly weak.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 20 Aug 2007, 10:04

R2UK got proper subs or dubtitles? Ta.

Lourdes · Post by **Lourdes** » 20 Aug 2007, 10:22

EvaUnit02 wrote:R2UK got proper subs or dubtitles? Ta.

"same specs and script"

They both have dubtitles.

captainjoe · Post by **captainjoe** » 20 Aug 2007, 18:35

R2UK is similar to the R1 but I think the edge goes to R1 with the right pitch and higher bit-rate.

slasher13 · Post by **slasher13** » 21 Aug 2007, 17:31

dubtitles thou

, yuck, I wonder how Madman would be? Be interested in the r4 being added to this comparision

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 01 Nov 2007, 14:40

I watched my R1 today, those didn't look like dubtitles to me. The dead ringers are shots where there's lip-flaps (moving mouths) visible.

Lourdes · Post by **Lourdes** » 01 Nov 2007, 16:59

Listen to the sub with the subs on.

When it's not word for word it's only a slight deviation. It's how all the manga dubtitles are, shame to see it on a Bandai R1 release. But it doesn't make a whole lot of difference IMO because little is changed beyond wording.

Lourdes · Post by **Lourdes** » 29 Mar 2008, 18:51

R2FR is NTSC>PAL so I won't bother to add it.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 30 Mar 2008, 00:37

Heh, ironic that the two countries (France and Japan) typically known for the best transfers of niche cinema have cocked their transfers of this film.

Jedi Master · Post by **Jedi Master** » 06 Apr 2008, 14:32

Just like to add the R2UK version has no screen text subs unlike the R1, i have noticed that manga uk keeps on leaving out screen text subs, they left them out on karas as well, it's like they think we can all read Japanese.

The R1 Menu also looks alot better than the R2UK version aswell.

Lourdes · Post by **Lourdes** » 06 Apr 2008, 17:24

Indeed. I find that Mangle UK skip the signs, signs tracks and have dubtitles whenever possible. Most annoying!