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The Evil Dead: Anchorbay USA DVDs vs. Anchorbay UK DVDs
Posted: 28 Apr 2007, 03:38
by captainjoe
Posted: 28 Apr 2007, 03:51
by EvaUnit02
The bonus disc from the AB UK Trilogy boxset is THE best version. An open-matte version of the BOTD remaster with the added benefit of PAL's extra resolution.
Posted: 28 Apr 2007, 03:57
by captainjoe
Agreed. I'd love to get a copy of that but I still am not region free

Posted: 28 Apr 2007, 06:57
by EvaUnit02
Posted: 28 Apr 2007, 08:27
by Killer Meteor
On my ABUK boxset, the open matte disc is an NTSC-PAL transfer, making the resolution benefits redundant.
Interestingly, there is documentation that reveals Rami intended for the film to be widescreen but not the 1.85:1 of the DVD but, according to Bill Warren's The Evil Dead Companion, 1.66:1, which is a more open ratio suitable for theatrically projecting 16mm material. Note the empty space at the top of the open matte caps. This is supposed to be viewed in widescreen - I know, no-one ever belives me!
Of course, quite a lot of theatres just plonk a 1.85:1 mask on it, and the early days of DVD saw a reluctance to do 1.66:1 anamorphic.
Posted: 28 Apr 2007, 09:25
by gojensen
I don't think I've ever been impressed by AB discs... :-/
Posted: 28 Apr 2007, 09:30
by Killer Meteor
They can be good on the minor films, but they somehow keep screwing up big time with the classics - bad remix on Suspiria, censored dialogue on Day Of The Dead, incorrect colour timing on Halloween, problems on Deep Red and Tenebre etc.
Posted: 28 Apr 2007, 09:32
by grim_tales
Didn't Raimi approve the Widescreen transfer? (That doesn't mean its what he intended, but still).
Which AB disc is 1.33/1? The AB disc I have looks more like the BOTD remaster.
Posted: 28 Apr 2007, 14:51
by EvaUnit02
grim_tales wrote:Didn't Raimi approve the Widescreen transfer? (That doesn't mean its what he intended, but still).
Which AB disc is 1.33/1? The AB disc I have looks more like the BOTD remaster.
I don't think there is an open-matte AB R1, it's probably the old Elite disc.
Posted: 28 Apr 2007, 14:51
by romerojpg
Its a shitty loking film, no dvd can really do much with it. But hell all the screen caps do make it look really awful looking
I own the Elite version and the Book of the Dead, but hate the cropped BOTD so will never watch that. The jaggies on that image where she is writing is awful, my TV does that with a few dvds latley and it does pop out at me, mainly on subtitles and menues of dvds, but it shoudlnt happen ever I say.
Raimi had nothing at all to do with the cropped Widescreen edition in any way.
Posted: 28 Apr 2007, 15:50
by Markgway
New one is too dark, colours too manipulated, it's heavily matted from 1.33 to 1.78 (strangely the zooming-in might have worked had it been handled better).
Original is sharper, has more natural appearence, but is interlaced. Regardless, I'd still take it over the newer release, which in all is pretty darn ugly.
Posted: 28 Apr 2007, 15:53
by Markgway
Obviously this movie was framed for 1.33:1 as there really isn't any "dead space"
There's a lot of dead space, they've just not framed the widescreen version properly. That's what I was getting at.
Posted: 28 Apr 2007, 15:56
by Killer Meteor
Markgway wrote:Obviously this movie was framed for 1.33:1 as there really isn't any "dead space"
There's a lot of dead space, they've just not framed the widescreen version properly. That's what I was getting at.
As I said, it should be 1.66.1
From memory, Rami supervised the Elite DVD and the widescreen version from Anchor Bay was supervised by Bruce Campbell
Posted: 28 Apr 2007, 16:02
by EvaUnit02
Ivan Drago wrote: and the widescreen version from Anchor Bay was supervised by Bruce Campbell
WTF? I could've understood having the cinematographer supervising a transfer, but one of the fucking actors?
Posted: 28 Apr 2007, 16:06
by Markgway
Here's what I mean:
Red lines represent what Anchor Bay cropped (top/bottom).
Blue line represents what I would've cropped (top only-all dead space).
**Ignore the white line that's a mistake.
Posted: 28 Apr 2007, 16:09
by romerojpg
Well he did work side by side on a daily basis for years with him

the film didnt acctually have a regular cinematographer as far as I know, many people quit, got sacked or moved on as it took so many years to make. At least Bruce was there from start to finish.
Posted: 28 Apr 2007, 16:09
by Killer Meteor
I think Rami was busy on Spider-man so he left instructions with Campbell
Mind you, sometimes even the director supervising the transfer can be bad. The classic case is when John Badham removed the colour from the DVD of his version of Dracula
Posted: 28 Apr 2007, 18:23
by romerojpg
Dont mess with the way the film was if there was nothing wrong with it to start with I say. You get used to things one way and then they mess with it.
Posted: 28 Apr 2007, 19:00
by Markgway
I agree, I mean if it was supposed to be 1.66 then make it so. All I was trying to say is that with some finesse ABE could have made it 1.85. But their framing is atrocious, unwisely matted.
Posted: 28 Apr 2007, 19:07
by Killer Meteor
Another example of bad matting is Warner Brother's release of Horror Of Dracula, which shows too much of the bottom at the expense of the top, frequently decapitating Christopher Lee in the process
Posted: 29 Apr 2007, 07:07
by captainjoe
EvaUnit02 wrote:captainjoe wrote:Agreed. I'd love to get a copy of that but I still am not region free

LOL, looks like the whole thing about the UK Trilogy boxset bonus disc having being an open-matte version of the BOTD remaster is bollocks. In fact to my eyes it looks worse than the old R1 AB disc, hang onto that and flog getting the UK boxset.
Man that looks bad. I'll add the caps in tomorrow.
Posted: 08 May 2007, 17:43
by Knetan
hey,
for those interested in obtaining the 1.33:1 version, there's an Italian 2 disc set that has the 16:9 + extras on one disc and the 1.33 framing on a second with additional extras, basically making it match up in that regard to the Book Of The Dead edition.
Got mine today.
http://www.dvd.it/page/dett/arti/208344 ... vd%29.html
Posted: 08 May 2007, 18:03
by EvaUnit02
Or you could just buy the old Elite disc which costs peanuts from Amazon Marketplace.
Posted: 08 May 2007, 18:06
by Knetan
hey,
oh well...

Posted: 08 May 2007, 18:17
by EvaUnit02
Knetan wrote:hey,
oh well...

LOL, the Italian title is The House.