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Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon = CT (R2) DVD vs CT (R3) DVD
Posted: 05 Nov 2006, 11:12
by chenlung
OK, can't be arsed to say owt but I'll leave you these:
Columbia = R2 United Kingdom.
Columbia = R3 Unknown.
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COLUMBIA TRISTAR (R2):
COLUMBIA TRISTAR (R3):

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COLUMBIA TRISTAR (R2):
COLUMBIA TRISTAR (R3):

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COLUMBIA TRISTAR (R2):
COLUMBIA TRISTAR (R3):

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COLUMBIA TRISTAR (R2):
COLUMBIA TRISTAR (R3):

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COLUMBIA TRISTAR (R2):
COLUMBIA TRISTAR (R3):

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Posted: 05 Nov 2006, 11:55
by BiscLimpkit
You should include a subtitle sample, as supposedly the R3 has a better translation or something.
Posted: 05 Nov 2006, 14:38
by chenlung
This one was the same (aside from colour and the amount of words in the one subtitle e.t.c) and doesn't have a country on it (the license disclaimer says it's only to be sold in the country where it was bought from which is rather silly). It's suspected the subtitle thing was a myth. I think the whole concept of the film is bullshit. All Westernized and seems like it's coming from a KF fan.
Posted: 05 Nov 2006, 15:30
by chenlung
What about at the end of the film (with spoiler tags)?
Have all latest batchs got American subtitles?
Posted: 05 Nov 2006, 15:34
by tom2681
The Ziyi / Chang Chen exchange ?
Or the Yeoh / Yun-Fat exchange ?
I think the new R3 subs are slightly different from the R1 subs at the end, but not by much.
Posted: 05 Nov 2006, 15:52
by chenlung
Yun-Fat.
Posted: 05 Nov 2006, 16:42
by bradavon
The original R3 subs found on the R3 with extras ARE MASSIVELY superior. I couldn't believe my eyes when I read the choice of words in many places, especially during the pivotal end scene.
The newer subs are an insult to the film, greatly dumbing it down. Yep I definitely think a subtitle example is needed.
Everyone is likely to have seen the film here but add SPOILER to the title and include caps from the pivotal end scene, they're the worst there.
I own the R3 (I paid £25 mail from China Town, London

, months before it came out anywhere else) and rented the UK R2. If they'd not fucked the subtitles up, strong word but true then I'd have given one of the SBs a go by now.
As for the DVDs the UK R2 is "slightly" sharper but is too dark too, I prefer the R3.
chenlung wrote:I think the whole concept of the film is bullshit. All Westernized and seems like it's coming from a KF fan.
Then why on earth buy not one but two DVDs of it? That's something Romero likes to do but not you to
tom2681 wrote:The R1 and R3 Superbit are dumbed-down.
The original R2 and R3 should have proper british subs.
Afraid not it doesn't work that way. The R3 (& "maybe" the R3 SB) has unique subs. The UK R2 definitely has the dumbed down subs, like R1.
tom2681 wrote:An early batch of R3 had the british subs.
All later versions are supposed to have the american subs.
Really? What a shame. The British subs as you call them are definitely how it was shown theatrically, at least in the UK anyway.
p.s - I'm sure they're not American/British subs Tom, just different wording (dumbed down is more accurate). There's no American English in them for starters.
Posted: 05 Nov 2006, 18:20
by tom2681
I'm sure they're not American/British subs Tom, just different wording
Yeah I know.
In my head:
R1 = American.
R2 = British.
the UK R2 is "slightly" sharper but is too dark too, I prefer the R3.
I don't see any difference in brightness.
Although I agree with you on the sharpness bit.
Posted: 05 Nov 2006, 22:01
by BiscLimpkit
I don't mean to boast but I got the R3 (with better subs) for £4.
Ok I am boasting, sorry.

Posted: 05 Nov 2006, 22:09
by grim_tales
Weren't the R3 subs the same as the cinema subs? Its been ages since I saw the film so I can't compare.
Posted: 06 Nov 2006, 02:01
by Markgway
Thanks, guys.
You've succeeded in confusing me.
I bought the UK/R2 when it first came out.
So WTF do I have?
Posted: 06 Nov 2006, 08:47
by grim_tales
Dumbed down edition AFAIK (compared to the cinema subs)

Posted: 06 Nov 2006, 20:59
by bradavon
Yes correct Grim Mark has the dumbed down/shite subs.
tom2681 wrote:I don't see any difference in brightness.
Although I agree with you on the sharpness bit.
The UK R2 looks a "tiny" bit darker to me.
grim_tales wrote:Weren't the R3 subs the same as the cinema subs? Its been ages since I saw the film so I can't compare.
Yes
Posted: 06 Nov 2006, 23:04
by Markgway
Shit.

Posted: 06 Nov 2006, 23:55
by Shingster
Trust me the difference in the translations are no where near as MASSIVE as Brad makes them out to be, the R3 translation is just slightly more poetic in a few scenes (for instance Li Mu Bai's deathbed speech). My memory is shite, but I seem to recall the theatrical subs being more like the R3 translation.
Posted: 07 Nov 2006, 00:00
by bradavon
Shingster wrote:Trust me the difference in the translations are no where near as MASSIVE as Brad makes them out to be, the R3 translation is just slightly more poetic in a few scenes (for instance Li Mu Bai's deathbed speech)
Of course neither subs are badly made, have spelling errors or grammar mistakes but they're definitely an obvious change.
We'll agree to disagree but I personally don't think I was too harsh on the non-Theatrical/R3 subs. They really dumb things down. Slightly poetic no way.
Shingster wrote:but I seem to recall the theatrical subs being more like the R3 translation.
They definitely are. I don't normally remember how things looked in the cinema but this one I distinctively remember the subs in the end sequence being the same as the R3.
p.s - Chen please add subs for the end sequence. Not that it may mean a lot if the R3 now also has messed up subs, right?
Posted: 07 Nov 2006, 08:07
by chenlung
PLEASE add spoiler tags!!!
Posted: 07 Nov 2006, 20:16
by bradavon
There already are spoiler tags or has Tom added them?
I'd prefer a Spoiler warning on the title instead of spoiler tags for the very few who've not seen the film.
Posted: 08 Nov 2006, 01:30
by chenlung
A mod may have indeed added them or the user edited their comments.
Posted: 08 Nov 2006, 01:45
by Shingster
I didn't edit the post, I don't think there's a person on these boards who hasn't seen the film.
Posted: 08 Nov 2006, 01:58
by tom2681
I added the spoiler tags after Chenlung said "PLEASE add spoiler tags".
Although I fail to see anything spoilerish in this thread.
Posted: 08 Nov 2006, 11:12
by thelostdragon
tom2681 wrote:Although I fail to see anything spoilerish in this thread.
You do, otherwise you wouldn't have known where to put the tags.
Soooo... what kind of subs does the R2UK Superbit edition have?
Posted: 08 Nov 2006, 11:13
by grim_tales
Same as the normal R2/R1 I would imagine.
Posted: 08 Nov 2006, 20:52
by bradavon
tom2681 wrote:I added the spoiler tags after Chenlung said "PLEASE add spoiler tags".
Although I fail to see anything spoilerish in this thread.
Me too.
I was wondering who did it. Tut tut for not telling members
thelostdragon wrote:Soooo... what kind of subs does the R2UK Superbit edition have?
R3 Standard is the odd one out, so messed up.
I can add R3 Standard subs this w/e, my copy is the proper version. I don't have a messed up one to use though. It doesn't matter if we get the "exact" frame on this one as it's the subs which are important.
I'll be using the end sequence so by definition it will contain massive spoilers!
Posted: 08 Nov 2006, 21:41
by tom2681
Tut tut for not telling members
Yea, sorry. Was busy with something else at the time.