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Markgway
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by Markgway » 16 Jul 2006, 03:12
R1 (SE)
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MLAM
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by MLAM » 17 Jul 2006, 00:17
Note i dont think its the precise frame for the one with the Arkangel Dam jump and i had to turn something on for it to take the shot with the generated captions on.
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Markgway
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by Markgway » 17 Jul 2006, 00:26
I'll edit them in.
I can't take caps with player-generated subs or captions. So you're lucky.
Are you going to do the Ultimate Editon ones tomorrow?
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by MLAM » 17 Jul 2006, 00:29
Markgway wrote: I'll edit them in.
I can't take caps with player-generated subs or captions. So you're lucky.
Are you going to do the Ultimate Editon ones tomorrow?
Haha, well as you can see they look terrible.
As mentioned in the other post, I should be able to if I have time
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by Markgway » 17 Jul 2006, 00:36
Virtually identical, except maybe the colours of the dam in the Arkangel cap?
And a smidgen more info on the left of the R1?
MLAM
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by MLAM » 17 Jul 2006, 00:40
Seems like a slight difference in contrast on the R1, things seem more clearer in the Dam USSR shot.
Bit more picture on the left too also, im fairly sure it was on the R2 but its the way MGM matted the picture, same thing happened with the R1 and R2 versions of Never Say Never Again, which is again an MGM DVD made around the same time as these SE's.
Also couldn't seem to find the exact frame for the shot where 006 is on the floor, have a small feeling a cut might have been done there somwhere.
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by grim_tales » 17 Jul 2006, 08:43
The player generated captions on Goldeneye look awful. Forgotten how bad.
Might have to go R1 if I upgrade...
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by Markgway » 17 Jul 2006, 13:12
Apparently the Ultimate Edition is a disappointment... we'll have a an idea when MLAM posts his caps but I suspect I'll be keeping the R1.
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by grim_tales » 17 Jul 2006, 13:37
Only that one review at the Australian site says that though Mark. But I won't upgrade till I see caps either.
MLAM
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by MLAM » 17 Jul 2006, 15:46
Right Ultimate Edition captures,
POSTED ABOVE NOW
AND for those who may possibly think it, NO I aint mixed up the captures with the old SE
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grim_tales
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by grim_tales » 17 Jul 2006, 15:51
The colours look duller on the PE, hiding details
This is seen in the "Pierce" shot MLAM and the shot of Famke Jansen in the Ferrari.
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by MLAM » 17 Jul 2006, 15:52
Indeed Grim,
It's cropped somewhat too, check out the wide shot with Alec on the floor.
P.S your name is Simon isn't it?
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by grim_tales » 17 Jul 2006, 15:58
Yeah that's right
Based on those shots I may not "upgrade GE", maybe double dip though.
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by bradavon » 17 Jul 2006, 20:21
Unsurprisingly the PAL R2 looks better but those subs look awful. Not that it bothers me when most films only have marginal captioning.
grim_tales wrote: The colours look duller on the PE, hiding details
PE? Huh.
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by gasteropod » 17 Jul 2006, 20:24
Probably put Platinum Edition instead of Ultimate Edition, hehe.
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by grim_tales » 17 Jul 2006, 20:39
LOL my bad!
I mean UE, sorry.
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by bradavon » 17 Jul 2006, 20:43
I had a feeling Grim meant that which is double funny when there are no UE screen shots???
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by grim_tales » 17 Jul 2006, 20:46
Brad look at the links in MLAM's post. He has posted links to the screenshots from the UE.
Grim PWNS Brad.
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by bradavon » 17 Jul 2006, 20:48
PWNS? LOL Oops 8)
Are those UE Screen shots accurate? It makes the DVD look awful which isn't mentioned in the DVD Times review.
grim_tales
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by grim_tales » 17 Jul 2006, 20:52
Indeed it doesnt look as good as the SE. The colours look drab and the contrast is different.
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by bradavon » 17 Jul 2006, 22:39
Mark: Could you update the comparison please. I can if you wish but you know you want to
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by Markgway » 17 Jul 2006, 22:50
The skintones of Brosnan's face in UE Cap 3 looks more natural, but otherwise, oh dear! The cropping is terrible, even compared to Tomorrow Never Dies. Why?? On the plus side for the UE, it's sharpness is less artificial, see Cap 4, resulting in a smoother picture. But it's missing too much info and is too dark as well, again see Cap 3. R1 Cap 2 shows the missing captions, deliberatley designed to be golden. In fact, I've always thought the movie had a golden tint to it, which has been deemphasied in the UE. UE Cap 5 looks surprisingly soft, bordering on the blurry. UE Cap 6 is smoother again, but plain dull. What went wrong...?
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by gasteropod » 17 Jul 2006, 23:03
The UE looks God-awful.
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by slasher13 » 20 Jul 2006, 14:50
Oh good, then I won't need to upgrade my R1 SE version
Player Generated Titles ---- Yuck!!!
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by grim_tales » 20 Jul 2006, 16:09
My R2 NL SE has the player captions I think.. oh well.