ABT: R1 AB vs. HK IVL vs. UK MIA SE vs. ND SB vs. UK OA
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ABT: R1 AB vs. HK IVL vs. UK MIA SE vs. ND SB vs. UK OA
I would've provided captures to match when the IVL Framing Issue occurs but no one was able to tell me when it happens. Anyway:
R1 Anchor Bay:
HK IVL Fortune Star:
UK MIA 2 Disc SE:
Nordic Scanbox:
R1 Anchor Bay:
HK IVL Fortune Star:
UK MIA 2 Disc SE:
Nordic Scanbox:
R1 Anchor Bay:
HK IVL Fortune Star:
UK MIA 2 Disc SE:
Nordic Scanbox:
UK Optimum Asia Ultimate Edition:
I can't find the other capture they've used in that 10,000 Bullets Comparison Review here:
http://10kbullets.com/reviews/a-better- ... e-edition/
If anyone can tell me I'll add it?
R1 Anchor Bay:
HK IVL Fortune Star:
UK MIA 2 Disc SE:
Nordic Scanbox:
R1 Anchor Bay:
HK IVL Fortune Star:
UK MIA 2 Disc SE:
Nordic Scanbox:
R1 Anchor Bay:
HK IVL Fortune Star:
UK MIA 2 Disc SE:
Nordic Scanbox:
UK Optimum Asia Ultimate Edition:
I can't find the other capture they've used in that 10,000 Bullets Comparison Review here:
http://10kbullets.com/reviews/a-better- ... e-edition/
If anyone can tell me I'll add it?
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Nope because Eva is providing the IVL captures.
The Anchor Bay looks to be slightly cropped but otherwise has stronger colours. It shows the AB is better than the UE but really they look very much the same.
The Anchor Bay looks to be slightly cropped but otherwise has stronger colours. It shows the AB is better than the UE but really they look very much the same.
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Good idea:
p.s - To be precise I used Media Player Classic though and resized to 720x404.EvaUnit02 wrote:Everyone should have PowerDVD on Tom's recommended settings:-Tom2681 wrote:Configuration -> Video = Deactivate hardware acceleration (your GFX card won't interfere with video quality).
Use color profile -> Original.
Video -> Advanced -> Deactivate deinterlacing.
Video -> Advanced -> Color -> All settings to zero.
Player -> Advanced -> Snapshot -> Capture to clipboard / custom size = 720x404 (16/9) 720x540 (4/3).
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Ok thats cool, what version of PowerDVD are you using brad? I've just installed PDVD 7 and caps seem to look better than what PDVD 6 could ever do.
I'll give it a go when I have a free moment
Also did you guys capture the file in BMP format and convert them to JPG's?
PDVD 7 has the option to take caps in JPG's now
I'll give it a go when I have a free moment
Also did you guys capture the file in BMP format and convert them to JPG's?
PDVD 7 has the option to take caps in JPG's now
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Ouch, that's not a good sign. Make sure all forms of video enhancement (including CLEV) are deactivated. We're not trying to get "better" caps, we're trying to get something that looks as close to the original DVD picture as possible.MLAM wrote:I've just installed PDVD 7 and caps seem to look better than what PDVD 6 could ever do.
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Ok heres the MIA 2 Disc DVD Edition:
Yes that is more or less how the DVD looks!
Though I could be a frame out on the Middle picture so his eyes can be visable but colour wise its more or less looks like this.
Yes that is more or less how the DVD looks!
Though I could be a frame out on the Middle picture so his eyes can be visable but colour wise its more or less looks like this.
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Updated.
And to think this was MIA's idea of a Remastered Special Edition. I dread to think what the original looked like
And to think this was MIA's idea of a Remastered Special Edition. I dread to think what the original looked like
Nope as I use Media Player Classic (NOT PowerDVD) I capture straight to JPEG so no conversion. I literally just adjust the resolution afterwards.MLAM wrote:Also did you guys capture the file in BMP format and convert them to JPG's?
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, well the old one was Non Amamorphic with burnt in English subsbradavon wrote:Updated.
And to think this was MIA's idea of a Remastered Special Edition. I dread to think what the original looked like
But I'd place good money that the PQ was overall better than the Anamorphic version!
EDIT: Wasn't there a thread on A Better Tomorrow already? Or was it on the old forum, Toge made it IIRC, I even provided him caps.
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Thats how it appears when I take the caps with PowerDVD, must be this DVD only issue as other DVD's are totally fine when taking captures but yes your right, you dont see the interlacing when its in motion but on this particular DVD it shows up badly on stills.bradavon wrote:Why are most of your caps very interlaced? I mean you don't normally actually see this unless it's during a fast moving scene.
The R1 AB definitely looks cropped. Odd it's never been mentioned before.
I forgot to mention earlier, there is an Easter Egg on this DVD which contains the Chinese opening titles so I can grab one cap only from that (obviosuly), here it is:
EDIT: If you want a better picture of the middle cap where Chow is shooting then I have one here if you want it.
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It would seem that:
1. The disc is interlaced.
2. The disc is a NTSC->PAL transfer (creating further ghosting).
3. The downsizing from 720x576 to 720x404 increases/decreases visible combing depending on the DVD or the resizing algorithm.
Put simply:
Crap DVD = Crappy caps.
1. The disc is interlaced.
2. The disc is a NTSC->PAL transfer (creating further ghosting).
3. The downsizing from 720x576 to 720x404 increases/decreases visible combing depending on the DVD or the resizing algorithm.
Put simply:
Crap DVD = Crappy caps.
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Many DVDs are interlaced but you don't usually see the interlacing so clearly.
This makes the MIA look even worse when you consider MIA obviously thought their Remaster bodge was better than than this extra, which looks much better.MLAM wrote:I forgot to mention earlier, there is an Easter Egg on this DVD which contains the Chinese opening titles so I can grab one cap only from that (obviosuly), here it is:
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Yeah but as I say Brad, when taking captures from this DVD it is awful, anything else I take is ok 95% of the time.
My thoughts exactly Brad, its even the Chinese print too! Arguably not as clean as the Interational print they ended up having but I would have been happy with it, condition wise its somewhere between AB's ABT1 and 2 I'd say, there is a small splice mark just after the frame I have posted.
For those who actually want the MIA 2 Disc edition then its still for sale at CDWOW for £6.99
My thoughts exactly Brad, its even the Chinese print too! Arguably not as clean as the Interational print they ended up having but I would have been happy with it, condition wise its somewhere between AB's ABT1 and 2 I'd say, there is a small splice mark just after the frame I have posted.
For those who actually want the MIA 2 Disc edition then its still for sale at CDWOW for £6.99
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