Bullet in the Head: R2 UK vs R0 HK vs R2 FR vs R2 Nordic

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 27 May 2006, 13:39

R2UK HKL:

R0HK IVL:

R2F HK Video:

R2 Nordic Scanbox:

R2UK HKL:

R0HK IVL:

R2F HK Video:

R2 Nordic Scanbox:

R2UK HKL:

R0HK IVL:

R2F HK Video:

R2 Nordic Scanbox:

R2UK HKL:

R0HK IVL:

R2F HK Video:

R2 Nordic Scanbox:

R2UK HKL:

R0HK IVL:

R2F HK Video:

R2 Nordic Scanbox:

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 27 May 2006, 13:48

The first shot looks about the same IMO.
The 2nd IVL shot looks awful, look how bright and pink it is.
The 3rd looks more natural (?) on the IVL but HKL colours are more pleasing.

HKL wins IMHO

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 27 May 2006, 13:50

1 - Draw. (Virtually identical)
2 - HKL. (IVL is awfully pink)
3 - HKL. (Tricky this, because they look so different. IVL's brightness reveals more detail - see Waise's back - but the colour has more depth in the HKL and looks right. You can smell the odorous green water).

4 - HKL (IVL's contrast is too high. Bright white threatens to overun the screen)
5 - IVL (HKL is just a bit too dark here)

Verdict: HKL. Marginal win.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 27 May 2006, 14:15

The HKL wins but it does show how inaccurate screen captures can be because here it's a much closer call than the capture comparison Tom posted.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 11 Jul 2006, 13:11

I know I'm 2 months late, but can I join in anyway ?

HK Vidéo:
https://www.bulletsnbabesdvd.com/forums/ ... ITHFR1.jpg
https://www.bulletsnbabesdvd.com/forums/ ... ITHFR2.jpg
https://www.bulletsnbabesdvd.com/forums/ ... ITHFR3.jpg
https://www.bulletsnbabesdvd.com/forums/ ... ITHFR4.jpg
https://www.bulletsnbabesdvd.com/forums/ ... ITHFR5.jpg

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 11 Jul 2006, 18:30

Tom, is the mono track completely clean or does it sound a bit harsh at times?

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 11 Jul 2006, 20:09

Haven't watched it yet, so I can't tell you.
As soon as I watch it, you'll be the first to know.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 12 Jul 2006, 06:50

French pics posted. HKL still wins IMO.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 12 Jul 2006, 14:57

Yeah, still HKL.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 12 Jul 2006, 20:24

The Frenchie is mostly a mess. What gives?

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 12 Jul 2006, 23:09

The HKL is cropped, dark, and missing colour filters (see cap N°5).

Why do you guys keep saying it's the best ?
Have I landed in Bizarro-Land by mistake ?

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 12 Jul 2006, 23:34

On average HKL is the best. Even though it is a touch too dark.

gojensen · Post by **gojensen** » 13 Jul 2006, 14:25

How can you say the HKVideo is a mess? It looks great, apart from the one indoor shot which is to blue. (It's NOT that blue on film... but for whatever reason I find most French DVDs (of Asian movies) to be a bit blueish...)

HKL is too dark, while the IVL is pretty good, it's too bright in a few scenes though... I haven't watched the whole HKVideo to make up my mind properly re. that release though...

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 13 Jul 2006, 16:02

gojensen wrote:but for whatever reason I find most French DVDs (of Asian movies) to be a bit blueish...)

Depends on the company. HKV adds blue tints, Studio Canal removes them...

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 13 Jul 2006, 19:01

HKV looks the weakest of the three overall.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 13 Jul 2006, 19:59

@ Mark: Agreed it looks shoddy coming from HK Video.

The HKL is by far the sharpest.

Tom2681 wrote:Why do you guys keep saying it's the best ?
Have I landed in Bizarro-Land by mistake ?

Because it is silly. Yes it's to dark but then the others in some ways look to bright.

The HK Video and IVL both look pretty messy to me. It's that simple.

gojensen · Post by **gojensen** » 13 Jul 2006, 22:08

Explain messy then... because that last shot from HKV looks just sweet

(my fave image from that flick aswell...)

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 13 Jul 2006, 22:35

I'm really lousy at explaining this kind of thing but I'll try. The HKL has noticeably more vibrant colours, especially here:

The IVL is grain heaven but that last one the IVL looks best. It is too dark but in most shots not to any great extent. Oh and this one looks VHS quality:

gojensen · Post by **gojensen** » 21 Oct 2006, 19:29

I took comparison shots from the new Nordic Scanbox John Woo collection box sets; It's a bit soft, but there's no digital enhancing nor any restoration for that matter.

Here ya go... (Note on the heli shot there's some glue across that particular frame... not really noticeable in movie mode though...)

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 22 Oct 2006, 00:48

Hmm... wow. Those caps sure look colourful... too colourful maybe?

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 22 Oct 2006, 01:29

Still an easy one to the HKL, the Nordic is a mess.

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 22 Oct 2006, 01:45

OK, the chopper shot definitely had coffee or so spilled over before it was digitalized. But from the other shots it definitely looks superior to all the other versions.

chenlung · Post by **chenlung** » 22 Oct 2006, 02:57

I like JC's revamp of 'Thriller' video in the 5th comparison

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EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 22 Oct 2006, 03:05

HKL still wins by far.

gojensen · Post by **gojensen** » 22 Oct 2006, 09:23

I don't quite get why people rave so about the HKL? I found it too dark and desaturated (in places)... as for that the Nordic looks good I felt. It's not so soft as the ABT discs - and it's definitely not a mess. I hadn't noticed that there were "dirt" on the frames until I tried to capture that one specific frame.

Personally I can live with a little "film noise" (as opposed to digital noise) as I'm pretty used to that from the cinema.

Still, I have to watch this on my projector to give a proper "review" of the disc.