The Proposition (2005) - Quality Western

BiscLimpkit · Post by **BiscLimpkit** » 10 Mar 2006, 20:07

This film provides a harsh, desolate outlook of Australia during the 1880's. It really does evoke the most unpleasant of emotions thanks to it's profound imagery and use of music. Everything looks so bleached that it hurts the eyes and the screeching violins really get to you. The environment is totally uninhabitable by today's standards - you can virtually feel the stench of blood, sweat and rotting flesh. The makeup artists and set designers did a great job.

Word of warning, the film is a lot more violent than I expected. Sadism and human brutality are some of the focuses; as such, there are some nasty death scenes.

I challenge anyone to find a film with more suspense than this. I've basically never experienced such tension.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 10 Mar 2006, 20:53

Looks good Bisc, will check it out.
I've heard its supposed to be very, very good.
Think EIV already have their UK R2 cover sorted out.... 8)

BiscLimpkit · Post by **BiscLimpkit** » 11 Mar 2006, 09:58

Haha I hope they use that art but go easy on the quotes.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 11 Mar 2006, 10:04

Yeah me too

I'll try to go see it next week if its on

saltysam · Post by **saltysam** » 11 Mar 2006, 10:20

it's already out in on region 4 dvd. think i'll give it a spin this weekend.

gojensen · Post by **gojensen** » 11 Mar 2006, 10:59

So, why does it have the PSP logo and www.yourpsp.com link on there?! :-/

BiscLimpkit · Post by **BiscLimpkit** » 11 Mar 2006, 11:10

gojensen wrote:So, why does it have the PSP logo and www.yourpsp.com link on there?! :-/

What?

Sorry I don't follow.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 11 Mar 2006, 11:32

BiscLimpkit wrote:What?

Sorry I don't follow.

I have no clue what it means either. Watching movies on such a tiny screen is retarded anyway IMO.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 11 Mar 2006, 11:33

grim_tales wrote: Think EIV already have their UK R2 cover sorted out.... 8)

The poster has a Tartan logo on it, therefore it must be a Tartan release.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 11 Mar 2006, 13:29

Does it?
I was kidding

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 11 Mar 2006, 13:37

Sounds interesting... a DVD rental methinks. 8)

BiscLimpkit · Post by **BiscLimpkit** » 11 Mar 2006, 14:45

That's right. I remember seeing the Tartan logo at the cinema.

I just scanned that image from a cinema programme. I'm not gonna be watching it on a PSP. 8)

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 11 Mar 2006, 14:52

Woooooooooooo, it's written by Nick Cave. Hopefully it'll be as bloody and violent as his songs tend to be.

Do you poms know of him? He's prolly best known for his duet with Kylie Minogue from the "Murder Ballads" album. I think the video may've featured Cave drowning Minogue.

BiscLimpkit · Post by **BiscLimpkit** » 11 Mar 2006, 15:13

I read that but alas, no idea of this Nick Cave you speak of.

It is bloody but like I said, very very unpleasant. It's not like a horror movie where watching people die is kinda fake yet satisfying.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 11 Mar 2006, 15:36

I've heard of Nick Cave. That song was done when Kylie was going through her indie period.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 11 Mar 2006, 16:04

BiscLimpkit wrote:I read that but alas, no idea of this Nick Cave you speak of.

It is bloody but like I said, very very unpleasant.

Yeah, sounds like Nick Cave. His songs are extreme and graphically violent.

One very cool musical artist. His singing voice sounds a bit like 80's Bowie.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 11 Mar 2006, 17:28

I'm seeing it tonight. It does look tops.

We've had 15 posts and no one has mentioned "Ray The Big Daddy Winston" is in it??? He was awesome in "Nil By Mouth". I'm pleased Tartan have this they should do a good DVD job.

EvaUnit02 wrote:Do you poms know of him?

Not everyone here is a Pom (really it should Pome). Mark isn't technically, neither is Yi-long, Rico, LD etc . . .

I guess I am, still who's on your currency?

. The phrase makes me laugh as really it's not us who are the prisoner at all.

BiscLimpkit · Post by **BiscLimpkit** » 11 Mar 2006, 18:07

What's a Pom?

Or a pome?

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 11 Mar 2006, 18:16

Its' Ozzy/Nz (?)/SA slang for an English person. It means Prisoner Of Mother England.

BiscLimpkit · Post by **BiscLimpkit** » 11 Mar 2006, 18:20

Ah I see. Thanks Pom(e).

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 11 Mar 2006, 19:49

Hence why I said technically as really it also includes the rest of Britain.

I always find it odd how Australia has a much better reputation in Britain (very good actually) than Britain does in Australia. It's probably historical.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 13 Mar 2006, 13:32

I saw The Proposition on Saturday night; with acting talents of Ray Winston and Guy Pearce, along with a supporting roles by Emily Watson and John Hurt I knew it wasn't going to be tosh. And boy it wasn't.

All the performances were excellent but the lead part (for me at least) was the cinematography. The D.O.P shot The Proposition in such a way to really bring to life the stark nature of Australia, mostly filmed with an incredibly intense palette of yellow. This truly conveyed how bright and unbearably hot the Australian outback is, you could almost feel the heat resonating from the screen. The music was fantastic too, but not the orchestral score you might expect instead a mix of melodic sounds to compositions better suited to rock music. It worked surprisingly well.

The Proposition equally succeeded in conveying how virtually inhabitable Australia once, and in some parts still is. Everyone apart from Emily Watson's character (the wife of Ray Winston) was gritty, filthy and frankly disgusting to look at. Guy Pearce no longer looked all that attractive.

The Proposition isn't for the faint hearted however as graphic violence at times does occur. I don't believe it's gratuitous however as it was necessary to really show how wild Australia once was. Let's not forget the majority of the white population at the time were prisoners the British government wished who didn't exist.

It's a pity more films haven't covered the Australian Wild West as it really held up well to the classic American Wild West films, of what The Proposition really is. The interesting difference being instead of the gun it was the British government who were in control.

Luckily for me the Odeon were airing a late showing on Friday and Saturday, so I ended up seeing it at 23:10. It was a weird experience as there was literally 3 people in the whole cinema (including me). The other two happened to be at the back so it felt like I had the cinema all to myself. If you can stay awake I discovered it's a great time to go: NO Kids, NO Joe Public - Talking, Mobile Phone going off, eating popcorn really loudly. Cinema is an art form as much as theatre as far as I'm concerned, it almost made the Odeon a decent cinema.

As for The Proposition I give it 8 golden kernels of popcorn out of 10.

p.s - The R4 DVD is already out but it only has a 13 minute featurette. Tartan will give us at least DTS extra.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 20 Apr 2006, 19:40

I can't be arsed to start a new thread:

Tartan are releasing this in July:

* Anamorphic Widescreen Presentation (No worries on NTSC to PAL)
* English DD2.0, DD5.1 & DTS 5.1 Surround
* English HOH subtitles
* Tartan exclusive inerviews with Guy Pearce and Danny Huston
* Cast and crew interviews with Ray Winstone, Emily Watson, David Wenham, Nick Cave, and John Hillcoat
* Behind the scenes features, including scene focus on Mickey’s flogging

Source: http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=61282

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I knew Tartan could beat the R4. I've been looking out for this title, top film.

The R4 only has one 13 minute featurette. I wonder if the "Behind the Scenes" here will be the same:

http://www.michaeldvd.com.au/Reviews/Re ... sp?ID=6721

gojensen · Post by **gojensen** » 21 Apr 2006, 10:17

But still it's a sad world when Nick Cave get's be known for his duet with TV-soap-queen-Minogue instead of his own works...

It's almost like Britney saying "Beatle-who?"

:-/

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 21 Apr 2006, 10:37

Brad why are there no NTSC-PAL issues?
I thought The Proposition was tops too.