The Official "Dragon Dynasty" Thread!

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 11 Aug 2007, 16:49

Well, Fortune Star doesn't have the rights to Hard-Boiled, but they do have the rights to the ABT trilogy. DD haven't released those yet. But if the source print is different... there's a slim chance of improvement.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 11 Aug 2007, 17:37

I would be seriously surprised if DD leave the ABT cock up intact.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 11 Aug 2007, 22:47

Depends on what source material they use?

But if they do use the Fortune Star print then I'm sure the skipping glitch will not be an issue.

The excessive grain, however, likely will be.

RickyTheDragonSteamboat · Post by **RickyTheDragonSteamboat** » 12 Aug 2007, 00:04

I just hope DD doesn't release the shitty version of ABT with crap music. Didn't Optimum do that?

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 12 Aug 2007, 00:49

Ya. Optimum's uses the same print as Anchor Bay's old R1 release and it has the Forrest Gump music too.

chenlung · Post by **chenlung** » 12 Aug 2007, 23:06

RickyTheDragonSteamboat wrote:I just hope DD doesn't release the shitty version of ABT with crap music. Didn't Optimum do that?

Seeing they've a Fortune Star contract, it'll be their version

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Sure, there's framecuts, but it's the best source out there.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 13 Aug 2007, 03:57

There's no good existing version of ABT so for once DD have an open goal.

Expect them to still miss.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 13 Aug 2007, 04:50

I can live with ABT1's frame skip on the FS masters, they aren't all that bad.

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 13 Aug 2007, 09:07

e-m-s is also currently working on a ABT trilogy release. Hope it will be as good as their "Hard Boiled", "The Killer", "Full Contact" and "Prison on Fire"-series.

dragonhero005 · Post by **dragonhero005** » 13 Aug 2007, 11:03

thelostdragon wrote:e-m-s is also currently working on a ABT trilogy release. Hope it will be as good as their "Hard Boiled", "The Killer", "Full Contact" and "Prison on Fire"-series.

hey, that's good news. Their Swordsman and Chinese Ghost Story releases were also very good.

RickyTheDragonSteamboat · Post by **RickyTheDragonSteamboat** » 21 Aug 2007, 23:18

Crime Story DVD review:
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDRevie ... _story.htm

RickyTheDragonSteamboat · Post by **RickyTheDragonSteamboat** » 07 Sep 2007, 23:56

I just found out that DD will NOT be using a Fortune Star HD master for their release of The Killer. I'm pretty glad about that since FS's version doesn't look all that great.

chenlung · Post by **chenlung** » 07 Sep 2007, 23:59

You sure?

Unless they've lost their Fortune Star contract, I cannot imagine it would be legally possible to do such a thing. Seems wrong

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RickyTheDragonSteamboat · Post by **RickyTheDragonSteamboat** » 08 Sep 2007, 00:22

I'm sure. A friend just emailed me a few minutes ago.

Also, according to this blog, DD's also putting out Jet Li's "Bodyguard From Beijing"!
http://dragondynasty.com/blog/show/54

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 08 Sep 2007, 00:39

RickyTheDragonSteamboat wrote:Crime Story DVD review:
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDRevie ... _story.htm

Is there a comparison of this with the HK FS DVD?

chenlung wrote:Unless they've lost their Fortune Star contract, I cannot imagine it would be legally possible to do such a thing. Seems wrong .

Why? HKL did it all the time.

RickyTheDragonSteamboat wrote:Also, according to this blog, DD's also putting out Jet Li's "Bodyguard From Beijing"!
http://dragondynasty.com/blog/show/54

Fantastic.

I've always liked that one but so far it's recieved so bad treatment. Either a dodgy dubbed DVD or an atrocious VCD like DVD (which I used to own).

chenlung · Post by **chenlung** » 08 Sep 2007, 00:51

Why? HKL did it all the time.

can you give me an example?

'A Better Tomorrow 2' = The Media Asia print was probably already licensed/restored before FS came about and HKL felt no need to spend anymore money, or they were satisfied with their own restoration (even though FS's master looks better).

Shingster · Post by **Shingster** » 08 Sep 2007, 01:18

chenlung wrote:Unless they've lost their Fortune Star contract, I cannot imagine it would be legally possible to do such a thing. Seems wrong .

I very much doubt the Fortune Star distribution rights come with the enforcement that they have to use their remastered prints, it's just easier for DD to buy them as well is all.

DangerousLeeHandsome · Post by **DangerousLeeHandsome** » 09 Sep 2007, 03:43

chenlung wrote:You sure?

Unless they've lost their Fortune Star contract, I cannot imagine it would be legally possible to do such a thing. Seems wrong .

Maybe they didn't license it from FS. They may have chosen to use something aquired during their Miramax days.

chenlung · Post by **chenlung** » 09 Sep 2007, 10:56

DangerousLeeHandsome wrote:
chenlung wrote:You sure?

Unless they've lost their Fortune Star contract, I cannot imagine it would be legally possible to do such a thing. Seems wrong .
Maybe they didn't license it from FS. They may have chosen to use something aquired during their Miramax days.

This seems more likely - from Media Asia.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 09 Sep 2007, 12:32

chenlung wrote:can you give me an example?

Okay if I must

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City on Fire

A FS print already existed but HKL didn't use it.

I could well believe DD have access to more than one master for some of their films.

chenlung · Post by **chenlung** » 09 Sep 2007, 12:51

HKL had City On Fire during their Media Asia days. FS print would have been available at the time they released it, but they probably wanted to save money (or not see it go to waste), and/or they thought their restoration was satisfactory.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 09 Sep 2007, 13:33

Muldoon (of the ADVDG) reckons that the Golden Princess catalogue will not see Fortune Star masters internationally because they're not part of the Fortune Star deal. That goes for HKL, DD and any other company outside of Hong Kong. The only place you'll see Fortune Star masters for Golden Princess films is in HK.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 09 Sep 2007, 14:46

Pity as on the whole I still think they're better.

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 09 Sep 2007, 14:52

no Fortune Star transfer = no Fortune Star audio = safe buy
Fortune Star transfer = Fortune Star audio = no buy in most cases (depending on company to some extent, DD has been pretty good with FS so far from what I've heard)

I wish no one would license their releases from Fortune Star (I know they probably have to nowadays, but...)

DangerousLeeHandsome · Post by **DangerousLeeHandsome** » 09 Sep 2007, 20:23

chenlung wrote:
DangerousLeeHandsome wrote:
chenlung wrote:You sure?

Unless they've lost their Fortune Star contract, I cannot imagine it would be legally possible to do such a thing. Seems wrong .
Maybe they didn't license it from FS. They may have chosen to use something aquired during their Miramax days.
This seems more likely - from Media Asia.

Possibly Media Asia or Atlas International.

HungFist wrote:no Fortune Star transfer = no Fortune Star audio = safe buy
Fortune Star transfer = Fortune Star audio = no buy in most cases (depending on company to some extent, DD has been pretty good with FS so far from what I've heard)

I wish no one would license their releases from Fortune Star (I know they probably have to nowadays, but...)

FS' Killer DVD was pretty terrible all around. Poor transfer, poor 5.1 remixes, OOS mono. The Joy Sales re-release reportedly fixes the audio problem but I'm not buying it again.

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