The official Tartan Asian Films thread!

Lourdes · Post by **Lourdes** » 05 Jun 2005, 14:26

Most Korean titles that Tartan have messed up have had progressive transfers in Korea. And that is of course only thinking about Korean films. Very few Japanese DVD's are interlaced.
And to be honest even if you have an interlaced NTSC master to deal with you can still do a decent job without any ghosting. I could manage this myself if I read up a little bit first so why aren't Tartan able to achieve this?

This is nothing to do with being purists, if you have a decent and/or large display you can't fail to notice this. It's horrendous and it's why I don't own a single DVD like it. Just wait until your next display upgrade.

You do get PAL>NTSC transfers sometimes. Thai films releases in HK, some TV series etc. Oh and not to mention Tartans genius Film>PAL>NTSC AToTS R1 DVD, that one was a stunner.
But as has been said before, we rarely have to put up with NTSC>PAL transfers here. Few other companies do this.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 06 Jun 2005, 09:18

Tartan USA has announced Kim Ki-duk's The Coast Guard.

www.dvdanswers.com wrote:The disc will be available to own from the 9th August, priced at around $24.99. The film itself will be presented in anamorphic widescreen along with Korean Dolby Digital 5.1 and DTS 5.1 Surround Sound tracks. English subtitles will also be provided. Extras will include an exclusive interview with the director, an introduction by the director, a “Making Of” featurette, original theatrical promotional materials, a music video, photo gallery and trailers.

See coverart here.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 13 Jun 2005, 15:49

Hey,

Cover art for IA3 up at Play:

http://www.play.com/play247.asp?page=ti ... g=72&pa=sr

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 13 Jun 2005, 18:56

Tack.

As long as it's better quality, it looks really good. I hope they give this one all the extras unlike IA2!

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 13 Jun 2005, 19:07

CD-WOW will probably have it cheaper (£9.99-ish)

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 13 Jun 2005, 21:33

Of course. I doubt it will be under a tenner though, only old Tartan DVDs are that. The chances are it will be either £14.99 or £13.99 before vouchers.

For me it all depends what extras it gets if I'll get the Tartan or HK DVD. I ended up getting IA2 HK DVD as the Tartan has pants extras.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 13 Jun 2005, 22:08

Yeah but none of the extras on the hk dvd have eng. subs do they? (cant remember).
Been ages since I saw IA 1 and 2 but would love to again soon (damn speakers)

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 16 Jun 2005, 02:24

The Tartan R1 of Oldboy is currently listed by some webstores..
Amazon lists the release date as 23/8.

HKFlix lists the same release date and the following extras:-
Anamorphic Widescreen
Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround
Director & Cinematographer's Audio Commentary
Director's Interview
5 Deleted Scenes

I wouldn't take that list with a grain of salt. Surely this will be identical to the excellent UK release?

In other news the US remake has been put on-hold because attached director Justin Lin is now working on The Fast and the Furious 3 (fucking awful franchise).

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 16 Jun 2005, 18:46

grim_tales wrote:Yeah but none of the extras on the hk dvd have eng. subs do they? (cant remember).

Nope but they're not lengthy so I wouldn't be to annoyed if I had to miss out on them.

The commentary is the only real extra and that wasn't on IA2 Tartan but was IA Tartan. Besides the HK DVD is over half the price cheaper which means I'm not paying Tartan's prices for a few flimsy extras.

The Making of. on IA2 HK DVD has English subs but nothing else. I reckon it just happened to have them (they're burnt in).

EvaUnit02 wrote:Surely this will be identical to the excellent UK release?

I'd be very surprised if it wasn't. The other Tartan R1 releases have been copies (bar NTSC to PAL of course).

EvaUnit02 wrote:In other news the US remake has been put on-hold because attached director Justin Lin is now working on The Fast and the Furious 3 (fucking awful franchise).

The first was a decent watch once affair, the second was rubbish.

memetic · Post by **memetic** » 17 Jun 2005, 15:33

Tom2681 wrote:Your TV displays half a frame every 50th of a second. The ghosting is always present but always hidden. I can however confirm that on big interlaced TVs (36"+) the problem becomes visible.

My projector has to project 1 full frame every 25th of a second. The ghosting is only visible on a full frame.

Most Korean DVDs aren't progressive.
Most HK DVDs aren't progressive either.
However, non-progressive NTSC looks better than a screwed-up PAL conversion.

Sounds like you have an impressive system. I guess it would come down to how your projector de-interlaces the video signal. Probably it won't do field interpolation cos then you would lose resolution, so probably a "frame averaging" which would create a "ghosted" frame. Then if you played a non-progressive NTSC>PAL-converted DVD you would be creating ghosted frames that were averaged from fields that already had ghosted images in them. Guess that might look bad.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 17 Jun 2005, 15:54

Guess that might look bad.

Yep. You got the picture.

Sounds like you have an impressive system.

Unedited photographs from my 99" projection screen:

http://img18.echo.cx/img18/7879/corrs7vn.jpg

http://img18.echo.cx/img18/5797/rotk9ww.jpg

Can you even begin to imagine how awful ghosting can look on that movie-screen ?
That's why I'm so mad at Tartan.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 26 Jun 2005, 10:09

grim_tales wrote:Hey,
According to Play, Tartan "Infernal Affairs 3" will now be released on August 1.

It's now the end of September FFS:

http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=56728

Why they keep delaying it is beyond me. I bet after all this waiting I end up getting the cheap HK DVD anyway

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 26 Jun 2005, 10:37

September

I'm with you Brad, if its' delayed any more I'll get the HK DVD, the audio thing must be fixed on all DVDs now.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 26 Jun 2005, 10:58

The thing is "Infernal Affairs" is undoubtedly best from Tartan but "Infernal Affairs 2" only really has the deleted scenes over the HK DVD (the commentary wasn't imported and the Making Of. has English subs on the HK DVD anyway).

So unless Tartan give us the commentary for "Infernal Affairs 3" then I won't be bothering (which I doubt they will).

I seriously considered getting the uber nice HK or Korean 6 or 8 disc box set but couldn't justify the cost compared with the £5-6 HK DVDs.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 11 Jul 2005, 22:10

Battle Royale II: Revenge - now postponed from its August release. new date to be decided.
Ozu boxset 3 - now postponed from its August release. new date expected to be December
Palindromes - now released 26 Sept (and not August as originally stated)
Mysterious Skin - now released 24 Oct (and not Sept as previously stated)
Aragami and 2LDK - now to be released as separate Asia Extreme titles on 24 Oct
Infernal Affairs 3 - now released on 26 Sept
Novo - now released on 26 Sept (and not August as originally stated)
Mean Creek - now released on 2 Oct (and not September as originally stated)
The Eye 2 - 3 Oct
Tell me Something and Infection - 14 Nov

There is also one addition to the schedule, the Hong Kong horror Inner Senses starring Leslie Cheung in what sadly proved to be his last film. The release date for this is 26th September 2005.

Source: http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=57720

Lourdes · Post by **Lourdes** » 12 Jul 2005, 00:45

"Ozu boxset 3 - now postponed from its August release. new date expected to be December"

Come on Tartan, if you're going to give us crap transfers then at least get them released faster.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 12 Jul 2005, 09:00

26 September for IA3!!

FFS!

:x

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 12 Jul 2005, 17:46

Aragami and 2LDK - now to be released as separate Asia Extreme titles on 26 Sep

TALK ABOUT GREEDY BASTARDS! thats the only reason they have relesed em seperate! to make more cash. gits, the dvds will probibly be crap anyway

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 12 Jul 2005, 18:31

Inner Senses:

* Anamorphic Widescreen Presentation
* Dolby Digital 5.1 & DTS 5.1 Surround
* ‘Making of’ documentary
* Interviews with cast and crew

Source: http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=57740

Infernal Affairs 3:

* Anamorphic Widescreen Presentation
* Dolby Digital 5.1 & DTS 5.1 Surround
* Behind the scenes feature
* Documentary
* Deleted scenes
* Exclusive Tartan UK mini documentary

Source (including the lovely cover art): http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=57742

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Taken from DaveF (one of the mods) at DVD Times:

Rather than do another story I'll just post here that Aragami and 2LDK have moved back to 24th October. Some future Asia Extreme release dates (all tentative of course)...

3 Oct - The Eye 2
24 Oct - Aragami; 2LDK
14 Nov - Tell me Something; Infection

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 12 Jul 2005, 18:41

It's great to see Tartan listened when we moaned about the IA2 cover. It's a vast improvement.

It's a pity the commentary hasn't been imported again but overall it's looking good, better than I was expecting. I hope the "mini" documentary isn't really short.

I'm not sure if I should trade/sell my IA2 HK DVD now and get the Tartan DVD for completeness sake??? The cover art is awful though.

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EDIT: I've just looked up what's on IA3 HK DVD and it doesn't have a commentary so forget that one. It only has the Making Of. from above (+ a silly music video).

Meaning this Tartan DVD has more extras BUT wait which cut are we getting?

I hope the deleted scenes (which aren't on the HK DVD) doesn't mean we're getting the theatrical cut with the extra scenes sectioned off. The HK DVD has both cuts and just the DC on the LE Trilogy box set.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 13 Jul 2005, 09:34

I didnt know there were 2 cuts of IA3, Brad.
Maybe I should just ask cd-wow if they have the fixed audio version of the HK DVD and get that

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 13 Jul 2005, 13:36

You could but we've waited this long we may as well wait for R2 reviews. I'm sure CD WOW will still have the HK DVD at that point.

If it turns out to be the TC with the DC scenes separated off I'll get the HK DVD.

IA also has two cuts it's just the alternate ending isn't very good so works fine separated part of the menus.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 13 Jul 2005, 14:46

IA also has two cuts it's just the alternate ending isn't very good

It's an ending that was shot for the Chinese and Singapour market, I think.
In those markets, the bad guy always has to lose at the end.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 13 Jul 2005, 23:07

Tom2681 wrote:It's an ending that was shot for the Chinese and Singapour market, I think.
In those markets, the bad guy always has to lose at the end.

Yep it was. Well I knew it was for the Chinese market. I can see this rule having a very bad effect on HK cinema come 2046 (maybe sooner)

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It's nice to have as an alternative but is ultimately very weak and would've killed IA2 and IA3's story arc.

p.s - Is Singapore the French spelling?

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 13 Jul 2005, 23:15

p.s - Is Singapore the French spelling?

Woops...yeah.
I was writing a post on a french forum at the same time and I got confused.