Blade Runner: The Final Cut - FIVE Cut SE DVD/HD

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 30 Nov 2007, 22:35

Ruins, maybe not. But it is a strange thing to do.

Imagine if other directors went back and added a notice on the faces of other charecters, it would ruin a bit of the wonder of who is who etc.. So I guess Ruins is a good word for it

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 01 Dec 2007, 05:15

The question is, did they add the glisten to Deckard's eyes too? He's a replicant too afterall.

dvdvision · Post by **dvdvision** » 01 Dec 2007, 08:22

Maybe it's just clearer because of the quality of the HD transfert. HD enhance things you would barely notice on SD.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 01 Dec 2007, 13:55

The makers of the new cut have said they have enhanced the eyes with CGI

so it was not there before.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 01 Dec 2007, 16:06

Of more importance I'm still well pissed I've not been allowed to see this on the big screen!

EvaUnit02 wrote:The question is, did they add the glisten to Deckard's eyes too? He's a replicant too afterall.

I don't believe so. It's implied he's a replicant but not spelt out.

darklight · Post by **darklight** » 07 Dec 2007, 18:34

gasteropod wrote:I read that replicants' eyes glisten now or something, so surely that creates a continuity error due to that eye test they do and stuff?

I saw the Final Cut in the theater recently and can assure you that this is definitely not true. There are some scene where replicant's eyes glisten, including one where Deckards eyes glisten, but those eye glistening effect have alway been there in all versions of the movie including the original release.

IronMonkey · Post by **IronMonkey** » 07 Dec 2007, 19:04

darklight wrote:I saw the Final Cut in the theater recently and can assure you that this is definitely not true. There are some scene where replicant's eyes glisten, including one where Deckards eyes glisten, but those eye glistening effect have alway been there in all versions of the movie including the original release.

Having watched the Final Cut last night, I'd be inclined to agree with darklight.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 07 Dec 2007, 20:26

If they have always been in there, show us pics

get out your old dvds and get snapping, I dont know the film as well as some of you so dont even own the dvd.

Ford was the main objector to being a replicant and never ever wanted his charecter to be one, hense the shouting matches etc, he got involved in with Ridley, would be strange if he wore contacts to get the glistning effect, he just would not have done it surley after all he has spoken about the subject. Unless he is a pansy and gave in after all

captainjoe · Post by **captainjoe** » 11 Dec 2007, 00:28

From the Remastered Director's Cut DVD:

*Also note Deckard's eyes.

darklight · Post by **darklight** » 11 Dec 2007, 17:19

Thanks for posting the screencap. I am not at home these days and wont be for another week or so therefore I cant post screen grabs from the old DVD to prove that those glowing eyes have always been there. I will post them once I am home.

Another thing I don't think those effects were done using contact lenses. I think they are just lighting effect similar to the red eye you get when the eyes reflect the light of a flash when taking pictures.

Also, the way I have always understood that effect is that only we the audience see this. The characters in the movie can not see it otherwise there wouldn't be a need for the voight kampff test.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 12 Dec 2007, 17:04

Just goes to show you how well I knop the film

very little. One of them films I always wanted to see on dvd, but never got it as they all sucked.

Fingers crossed it blows me away on HD DVD, as I have only ever seen the film on TV! scary.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 19 Dec 2007, 23:34

4 months and 17 days my 5 Disc BD has shipped from Amazon.com

I think it's the longest I've ever had a pre-order available.

saltysam · Post by **saltysam** » 20 Dec 2007, 20:35

bradavon wrote:4 months and 17 days my 5 Disc BD has shipped from Amazon.com

fingers crossed for you then- see link below. i ordered the hd-dvd version

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/ ... litch/1290

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 20 Dec 2007, 21:45

They've sent mine off now. I do hope mine isn't wrong. Apparently the problem is with the HD-DVD too.

saltysam · Post by **saltysam** » 20 Dec 2007, 21:52

gasteropod wrote:They've sent mine off now. I do hope mine isn't wrong. Apparently the problem is with the HD-DVD too.

where did you read that? there's a 6 page thread over at hi def about the blu-ray glitch but not a mention in the hd-dvd forum? also the article doesn't mention hd-dvd.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 20 Dec 2007, 22:02

Thanks Salty.

It doesn't say the HD-DVD definitely doesn't have the problem either.

I cannot check mine until the Samsung arrives. If it's okay with you Salty could I send you my Disc 5 to check? That is unless I happen to get a Samsung early January.

saltysam · Post by **saltysam** » 20 Dec 2007, 22:22

bradavon wrote:Thanks Salty.

It doesn't say the HD-DVD definitely doesn't have the problem either.

I cannot check mine until the Samsung arrives. If it's okay with you Salty could I send you my Disc 5 to check? That is unless I happen to get a Samsung early January.

of course no problem. the article doesn't mention hd-dvd at all,the fact there is a large thread about the blu-ray glitch sounds like it's a blu-ray problem.i'm interested to hear where gasteropod read it affected the hd-dvd. last week warner's packaged a hd-dvd version of one of the harry potter movies in the blu-ray box set.they must have poor post-production checks.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 20 Dec 2007, 22:36

Thanks.

I don't have a Scooby how I'd fix it if it is the wrong disc. I guess I'd have to send Disc 5 back to Amazon America.

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 20 Dec 2007, 23:09

I thought I read a post on that topic which said that a HD-DVD forum was on about it too, but perhaps I misunderstood it and they meant that the HD-DVD people were on about the Blu-ray problem. Either way, here's hoping mine and Brad's are fine!

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 20 Dec 2007, 23:45

Please post Gasteropod when it arrives.

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 20 Dec 2007, 23:59

Yeah will do mate

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 22 Dec 2007, 22:29

According to this review "some" copies contain the wrong disc 5:

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/1039/bl ... r_cce.html

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 01 Jan 2008, 18:12

Can anyone who has the Final Cut (any version) on BD or HD-DVD from the UK or USA confirm it has both TrueHD and DD5.1/DD Plus 5.1 please?

American reviews say both are included but UK reviews say it only has TrueHD. For those whose players output TrueHD in 2 Channel only this is a serious concern. Unlike DTS-HD there is no DD5.1 Core found in TrueHD!

I'd hate to watch Blade Runner: Final Cut in 2 Channel.

Blu-ray USA Review showing two English soundtracks: http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/1039/bl ... r_cce.html
HD-DVD USA Review showing two English soundtracks: http://hddvd.highdefdigest.com/1040/bla ... r_cce.html

UK Reviews mentioning no DD Plus is present: http://www.dvdtherapy.com/review_info.php?id=1778 and http://www.dvdactive.com/reviews/dvd/bl ... l-cut.html

Could it be a case of "Review copies" omitting it? Thanks.

EDIT: Reading reviews it seems Europe just got TrueHD but America TrueHD and DD5.1/DD Plus 5.1. Even the French and Swedish reviews over at DVD Basen just mention TrueHD.

Could this be an authoring error on the European discs (it's mentioned on the case), or just a case of review copies not getting a complete package?

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 05 Jan 2008, 19:02

Have you received yours yet, Brad? I'm starting to get a bit impatient now

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 09 Jan 2008, 19:59

Has anyone's USA BD or HD-DVD arrived from Amazon? Mine shipped 3 weeks ago today. I'll give it one more week before contacting them.