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Posted: 25 Mar 2007, 11:28
by grim_tales
The bit when Le Chiffre puts the rope over Bond's shoulder is definitely not in the UK cinema version.
Re: Casino Royale R3
Posted: 25 Mar 2007, 15:38
by EvaUnit02
Markgway wrote:
R1

I think I've seen this dude on an episode of Stargate.
Posted: 27 Mar 2007, 10:39
by gojensen
So, are all asian versions of Casino Royale the same? I know Korea can "censor" films, but what about this one? And Japan? (I'm looking to import the BRD disc once it releases, if it is indeed the "un-censored" release...)
CASINO ROYALE REGION 3 VERSION
Posted: 30 Mar 2007, 18:41
by tantallon
I saw this movie in Paris, and the shot of the rope on the shoulder was in that print. When I saw the film again, two days later in England, it was missing. I've seen this movie three times since in England, so can unequivocibly confirm that this shot - and this shot only - is missing in the British version of the film. The Region 3 DVD is therefore the one to own, for completists.
The US version is drastically different - lots of cuts to the violence , in the pre-titles sequence, torture sequence, and the fantastic stairwell fight sequence.
Out.
Posted: 30 Mar 2007, 20:01
by vksf01
yes, do i get the korean one
http://us.yesasia.com/en/PrdDept.aspx/c ... 004634395/
or the hong kong one?
http://us.yesasia.com/en/PrdDept.aspx/c ... 004642204/
gojensen wrote:So, are all asian versions of Casino Royale the same? I know Korea can "censor" films, but what about this one? And Japan? (I'm looking to import the BRD disc once it releases, if it is indeed the "un-censored" release...)
CASINO ROYALE REGION 3 DVD
Posted: 31 Mar 2007, 09:56
by tantallon
I got mine from PlayAsia, in Hong Kong.
Posted: 31 Mar 2007, 15:20
by chenlung
Have we established if the R3 has a faulty DTS soundtrack?
Posted: 31 Mar 2007, 15:49
by gasteropod
As far as I'm aware, it DID have a fault, but newer batches don't.
Posted: 05 Apr 2007, 04:25
by EvaUnit02
BTW the R3 HK is also coded for R1 (at least my copy is), if anyone cares.
God knows why region-free DVD player proliferation has been surprisingly low in North America until recently.
Posted: 05 Apr 2007, 15:46
by Markgway
Because Americans are less international than most other countries.
Posted: 09 Apr 2007, 10:56
by gojensen
Did a little digging...
Seems ONLY the UK and US releases are tampered with. So for the rest of us Europeans, Aussies and Asians that's good news
So you may not need to go so far as HK to get an uncut release... (though it may of course be cheaper!

)
For those with BluRay, atleast the Scandinavian disc is uncut and offers English subs and menus aswell as some other languages... the same disc has AUS and NL stamps on the disc face so I'm guessing it's the same disc released all over region B/2 except for the UK

(oh and it's region free... truly!)
Posted: 14 Apr 2007, 01:02
by bradavon
Don't forget the R3 also has exclusive DTS too!
IronMonkey wrote:I'm guessing the RA & RB versions will be the exact same cut versions as the R1 and R2 DVDs, and I doubt another BD release of Casino Royale will be coming for a while.
What does RA and RB mean?
I'm sure an HK BD will come soon enough, not long I doubt. Wait for that. Getting hold of it maybe tricky though.
Personally if I could play BD I'd get whichever region my player could handle and be happy, but then these sorts of cuts never did bother me. I'll be upgrading for sure, no contest (when? when LG release a non-fucked up combo probably).
Posted: 14 Apr 2007, 02:26
by gasteropod
bradavon wrote:What does RA and RB mean?
Region A and Region B for Blu-Ray

Posted: 14 Apr 2007, 08:31
by gojensen
Silly thing though... they named the regions 1 OR A, 2 OR B, 3 OR C... so some disc publishers put R1 and some put RA... :-/ (see
here)
Anyhoot, the BD has uncompressed PCM audio which beats the R3 DTS anyway you look at it

And I hear Samsung is back in the Duo-player game aswell...
(
http://www.samsung.com/PressCenter/Pres ... 0000338109)
Too bad Samsung doesn't make the BEST players around

Posted: 14 Apr 2007, 08:57
by EvaUnit02
gojensen wrote:Anyhoot, the BD has uncompressed PCM audio which beats the R3 DTS anyway you look at it :

Posted: 15 Apr 2007, 13:29
by bradavon
Actually it's not obvious Eva.
Tomb Raider HD-DVD has DD Plus and DTS, the DD Plus apparently has the edge. Many early BDs only have DD5.1. So it's definitley worth mentioning what audio an HD disc has.
gasteropod wrote:Region A and Region B for Blu-Ray

Thanks
gojensen wrote:Silly thing though... they named the regions 1 OR A, 2 OR B, 3 OR C... so some disc publishers put R1 and some put RA... :-/ (see
here)
Yeah I hate when some ignorant e-tailor does that. There are only 3 BD regions so they're not the same as DVDs 6 regions.
Yep exactly. I've mentioned the Samsung player here:
https://www.bulletsnbabesdvd.com/forums/ ... php?t=3092
gojensen wrote:Too bad Samsung doesn't make the BEST players around

No but those that do have to much to risk by releasing a Combo and besides Samsung have always been one of the few companies that think out of the box.
Samsung are bloody good value for money though and also make great kit even if it's not the best. I'd happily own Samsung kit. I'd prefer Samsung than LG, who're the only other make who've done this. I really hope the Samsung is a reasonable price and not fucked up this time.
I want to be able to play 100% of films in ONE box!
Posted: 15 Apr 2007, 14:28
by gasteropod
Don't we all

Posted: 15 Apr 2007, 16:25
by EvaUnit02
bradavon wrote:Actually it's not obvious Eva.
Tomb Raider HD-DVD has DD Plus and DTS, the DD Plus apparently has the edge. Many early BDs only have DD5.1. So it's definitley worth mentioning what audio an HD disc has.
Not if you're educated on the subject. But good point, most people buying either HD format at this point will be ignorant of this, they're Joe Average who bought the Xbox 360 addon or a PS3.
Posted: 15 Apr 2007, 17:42
by gasteropod
I read that often the 'DD Plus' is exactly the same as its 'DD' Blu-Ray counterpart.
Posted: 15 Apr 2007, 17:52
by gojensen
And further, many folks really thought PCM was worse than DolbyDigital or DTS... just because, "wtf pcm?"
Some of the higher quality DD/DTS tracks includes "lower quality" DD tracks aswell, to be comaptible with decoders that doesn't yet support the new modes (like DTS Master Audio).
Blu-Ray supports DD-plus aswell... so I don't know why they'd release DD-plus on HDD and only DD on BRD... unless they just didn't bother marking it as such? But perhaps all this BRD/HDD whatever discussion should be split-off from the "Casino Royale R3" thread?

Posted: 15 Apr 2007, 21:30
by bradavon
Start a thread over in Technology.
Technically PCM beats them all but seeing as it DTS-HD Master Audio and Dolby True-HD are all lossless it shouldn't make any difference. I'll be finding out when I get my HD Player for sure.
gasteropod wrote:I read that often the 'DD Plus' is exactly the same as its 'DD' Blu-Ray counterpart.
So did I. It makes it damn confusing as you can put DD5.1 at SD bitrates on either format.
Why they don't call it DD Plus on BD (but do HD-DVD) I've no idea.
Posted: 06 May 2007, 12:53
by grim_tales
I'm going to order Casino Royale soon.

Is the audio fault on the DTS likely to be fixed?
Posted: 06 May 2007, 13:10
by EvaUnit02
grim_tales wrote:I'm going to order Casino Royale soon.

Is the audio fault on the DTS likely to be fixed?
Yes, it was fixed long ago.
Posted: 06 May 2007, 13:27
by romerojpg
No it wasnt sadly. Just watchced my replacement the other night, drops out all the and its not the DTS track its the normal 5.1 track. Got a replacement last week and Bugger, its going back again, not that I want it anyway as am getting the Blu Ray so just want cash back, but CDWOW are thick. The DTS track is fine, the normal DD5.1 is mucked up.
Posted: 06 May 2007, 13:41
by grim_tales
Thanks Eva, Romero.
Guess I'll buy it and see. Lucky I can play DTS then!

Eva did you get a working copy? Maybe Romero is just unlucky
