Crime Story: HKL vs Joy Sales

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 09 Sep 2006, 11:44

Quality looks OK to me

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 09 Sep 2006, 11:53

Ooohhh I've always wanted to see the deleted tennis match !

*Puts Crime Story JS on his to-buy list*

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 09 Sep 2006, 11:57

Is there a different version of the actual movie on the JS DVD Keung, or is it the same as the HKL?

Shingster · Post by **Shingster** » 09 Sep 2006, 13:31

chenlung wrote:
Markgway wrote:Those deleted scenes are horrendously bad.
In 'visual' quality ?

Pretty sure he's not talking about the transfer, all the deleted scenes are truly awful - except for the Jazz scene, which is so bizarre it's almost inspired.

grim_tales wrote:Is there a different version of the actual movie on the JS DVD Keung, or is it the same as the HKL?

Same as the HKL Grim, the deleted scenes were taken from the Singapore version of the film. There are much better deleted scenes shown via slideshow on the disc (I think they only had access to stills otr dodgy workprints of these).

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 09 Sep 2006, 14:03

Thanks

I may doubel dip as the HKL doesnt have these deleted scenes.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 09 Sep 2006, 15:41

Shingster wrote:Pretty sure he's not talking about the transfer, all the deleted scenes are truly awful - except for the Jazz scene, which is so bizarre it's almost inspired.

Right, I was talking about the content, not the A/V. The 'pretending to play musical instruments' scene was bizarre AND bad. Be honest.

It does NOT belong in Crime Story and would've been thrown out a 'Twins' romantic comedy. I can't believe Kirk Wong had anything to do with these(?)

the deleted scenes were taken from the Singapore version of the film. There are much better deleted scenes shown via slideshow on the disc (I think they only had access to stills otr dodgy workprints of these).

Yeah, the slideshow material was never shown in any version, as it was scrapped before Jackie cut the final movie together. Must still exist somewhere though... mind you more of Kent Cheng having sex isn't something I'm desperate to see.

Shingster · Post by **Shingster** » 09 Sep 2006, 23:43

Markgway wrote: Right, I was talking about the content, not the A/V. The 'pretending to play musical instruments' scene was bizarre AND bad. Be honest.

Oh don't get me wrong, I agree it doesn't belong in any movie, let alone Crime Story, but as a seperate deleted scene it's very amusing

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I got the impression from this set that Kirk's original take on the story was going to be part action thriller, part romantic drama. I assume whatever shit he was taking when he dreamt up these sequences wore off pretty fast in the editing room (either that or only the JC edit of the film dropped them).

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 10 Sep 2006, 15:23

If Jackie cut those scenes... then God Bless Him!!!

dragonhero005 · Post by **dragonhero005** » 12 Sep 2006, 14:48

One question: It was said that there would also be 2 little posters, or at least postkards. Is that true?

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 12 Sep 2006, 15:14

The posters are printed on the insert.

bleeper · Post by **bleeper** » 16 Sep 2006, 07:15

The films garbage do yourself a favour and buy something like HK 1941, Project A part 1 or police story.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 16 Sep 2006, 10:21

bleeper wrote:police story.

Police Story is barely a film, "narrative stunt documentary" would be a better description.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 16 Sep 2006, 13:03

Police Story is great, but to call Vrime Story "garbage" is way of the mark IMO.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 16 Sep 2006, 13:20

to call Vrime Story "garbage" is way of the mark

Agreed, I love Vrime Story.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 16 Sep 2006, 13:30

I mean CRIME STORY.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 16 Sep 2006, 14:22

Crime Story is a strong film, but not as great as it COULD have been.

Police Story is classic Jackie entertainment.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 16 Sep 2006, 14:34

Agreed re: Police Story, Mark

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 05 Feb 2008, 21:19

Could someone add DD captures please.

DangerousLeeHandsome · Post by **DangerousLeeHandsome** » 23 Jun 2008, 01:21

Here's a pretty good comparison between HKL's and DD's:

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 23 Jun 2008, 19:33

Thanks Lee. The DD clearly wins.

I'd be interested to see one between the DD and JS DVDs.

chenlung · Post by **chenlung** » 23 Jun 2008, 19:40

bradavon wrote:I'd be interested to see one between the DD and JS DVDs.

JS wins as DD is bizarrely cropped.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 23 Jun 2008, 19:54

How bad is it? Are we talking 1.85:1 to 1.78:1 cropping or 2.35:1 to 1.85:1 type cropping?

Thanks. Any captures?

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 23 Jun 2008, 19:55

DD clearly beats HKL, HKL looks way too bright/washed out.

chenlung · Post by **chenlung** » 23 Jun 2008, 21:57

bradavon wrote:Thanks. Any captures?

http://adg.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=2164

I did notice that Joy Sales subtitles alignment is a bit poorer than HKL sometimes, but does apparently translate something HKL doesn't at the end.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 23 Jun 2008, 22:03

Thanks Chen.

I'm presuming the second one is cropped (so the DD), right? -

http://adg.invisionzone.com/index.php?s ... st&p=23783

To me they look 99% the same. The DNR on the JS looks more extreme to me than the DD cropping. I'd be happy with either of them, the cropping is fairly minor. I wouldn't spot it unless I saw two captures like this.