saltysam wrote:Brad i'm not interested in sermons from the resident b&b hd expert who has never played a fucking hd disc in his life.
That was harsh. Your point was completely illogical. It doesn't take an expert to work that one out. When I do get a HD Player you can guarantee it will be worth the wait and trump what you own. There is no weakness in waiting.
I was talking generally (you knew that) about the technical aspects of BD vs. HD-DVD. You were talking specifics. That's quite different, you know that too.
Why are we even arguing? We weren't even talking about the same thing.
saltysam wrote:at least Gasteropod actualy plays hd discs.
Who happened to agree with what I said.
Markgway wrote:The region coding alone was enough for me to want HD to win... but we'll all have to live with Blu-Ray. That's just the way it goes.
Agreed.
Markgway wrote:I'm hanging off for a multi-region (or at least A/B) player to come along.
The truth is that could take a very long time, maybe not but it's likely it will.
I may not own a Player but I can assure you I have done as much research into this as Salty and the like.
Markgway wrote:PS3 are ugly chunky bastards.
Agreed. That's always been one of my problems with them too.
Markgway wrote:I'd like something that plays proper and has the look of a Samsung.
If you just want BD the Panasonic DMP-BD50 is your friend.
I hear Panasonics work wonderfully and the DMP-BD
50 will be Profile 2.0 too (something the PS3 cannot manage). It will also offer TrueHD and DTS-HD to future proof you (again something the PS3 can only half manage). So even if you don't care about Lossless audio (something I can understand DD5.1 sounds ace) at least you have it ready.
The only reason the PS3 is so popular is because it's A: A Games Console, B: Got stacks of marketing (how many BD Players ever have?) and C: Got off early with decent hardware. Many other BD Players are now starting to easily trump it.
Even Panasonic's DMP-BD30 (which is out now and costs roughly the same as the PS3) trumps it too. Here is a Region A DMP-BD30 (it's the same as the DMP-BD50 but is Profile 1.1 instead and drops the analogue outputs):
http://www.movietyme.com/catalog/produc ... s_id=38704
saltysam wrote:you forgot to add "but are the the most reliable BD players available"
Except they're not. They're one of the most reliable but it's no longer a single player market.
tom2681 wrote:The only Panasonic that's available in France is the BD10, which is really old.
Surely the new Panasonic models are coming too? I'm surprised you'd want a Profile 1.0 machine. Can't you import? After all that expensive I'd want Profile 1.1 minimum.
tom2681 wrote:Couldn't care less about profiles or HD audio. I don't want no PiP commentaries or shitty downloadable content.
Fair enough but wouldn't you want a newer player that was more future proof? I'm wager a Profile 2.0 machine is more future proof by it's nature than a Profile 1.0 one. That uses old hardware.
I'd also like the option of watching a PIP commentary, speaking personally. Like I listen to DVD commentaries today. Don't you listen to commentaries any more? Many BDs have a PIP commentary instead of the regular commentary.
Disney have already stated they'll be releasing some Profile 2.0 BDs later in the year. I think Sleeping Beauty and Finding Nemo are two of them.
tom2681 wrote:And it's not like I could tell the difference between a good old Dolby 5.1 track and TrueHD anyway.
Have you compared them? If so fair enough.
saltysam wrote:I totally agree with that 8)
Coming from someone whose never heard Lossless Audio. I am at least willing to accept "it could sound better".
Even Cooey over at Import Forum now agrees he was wrong about Lossless Audio. He too was just like you about it and actively ignored it but now he can play it back he loves it.
You'll never know if you buy a Player now that cannot handle them. It made sense 6 months ago but today Full Lossless Audio is finally possible so why ignore it?
