Duffy

[bradavon]

I swear Mark has the worst taste in music ever . She's great IMO.

How on earth did you get such a good shot Romero? I always find it a nightmare to take even closely good shots at concerts. I bet you were really close to the front. Mine are almost always really grainy or so dark (due to the size of the room) I have to use extensive touching up to even make them remotely good, of course touching up too much can in itself fuck the image up.

[romerojpg]

Aiming up the skirt, no need as been flashed many times

Yup Brad you have to be close (I am pretty much always at the very front) and you have to have a camera that can take images in the dark with no flash and have the end results not look poor, few cameras can do it.
I researched and bought a compact that is esspecially for concerts only, it was poor at most things, but was great when you spent time and learned how to use it in the dark just blew it up at that Duffy concert sadly, so had to get another far harder one to use.


Its amazing that Duffy was the biggest selling artist in the UK last year, I like her, but she aint even close to the best, but I do find it odd that everyone else seems to buy the album so much. I just did not think she was that mainstream.

[bradavon]

What make/model for taking decent photos in the dark without flash? Which is normally a big no no.

Its amazing that Duffy was the biggest selling artist in the UK last year, I like her, but she aint even close to the best, but I do find it odd that everyone else seems to buy the album so much. I just did not think she was that mainstream.

I completely agree with everything you've said here. I find it a bit doir at times, it's not a particularly happy album.

Snow Patrol's album is really good. I cannot stand all those Indie bands "except" for oddly Snow Patrol who're really good.

My Mum gave me Robert Plant's (member of Led Zeppelin) and Alison Krauss's "Raising Sand" album. I wasn't too sure at first but now think it's fantastic. Very 70s rock-folk music.

[gasteropod]

I cannot stand all those Indie bands "except" for oddly Snow Patrol who're really good.

Snow Patrol aren't indie, they're 'mum-rock'.

[romerojpg]

Duffy well I guess people dont love her for the singles charts as she really has not done too much in them charts, its the album sales which seem to be gigantic! that never makes sense to me, someone doesnt exactly set the singles charts on fire, yet has a massive selling album.

Guess people must have loved her first hit in the charts and just got the album off the back of that.

What make/model for taking decent photos in the dark without flash? Which is normally a big no no.

Sadly Its a very, very short list.
Fuji f20 (which I owned and broke, was discontinued as it was too good!), and f30. Both impossible to buy anywhere.

Canon G9 (which I just bought) and G10 which cost a tonne, and a few others which do a good job, really not many compacts are made for good dark, high ISO photgraphy when you dont have a flash on.

Bacially camera makers are more concerned about making cameras have 50MP, the higher they go the worse the dark photography gets as they push the sensors inside way to far.

[bradavon]

Snow Patrol aren't indie, they're 'mum-rock'.

What about Coldplay, them too? Because except for Clocks I cannot stand them. I just find it off I like Snow Patrol but no other bands of their type.

They're far from rock music. How many Mum's like them anyway? .

Duffy well I guess people dont love her for the singles charts as she really has not done too much in them charts, its the album sales which seem to be gigantic! that never makes sense to me, someone doesnt exactly set the singles charts on fire, yet has a massive selling album.

The two markets cater to entirely different age ranges. Kids to early 20 somethings buy singles, around 25 and upwards buy albums. I've not bought a single in years but did when I was about 20. I bought loads. For £1.99 or £3.99 each, such a rip off.

Fuji f20 (which I owned and broke, was discontinued as it was too good!), and f30. Both impossible to buy anywhere.

Presumably there's a newer model or isn't it as good?

Bacially camera makers are more concerned about making cameras have 50MP, the higher they go the worse the dark photography gets as they push the sensors inside way to far.

Exactly. That annoys me too. It's pointless having a really high mega pixels if it doesn't have the goods to back it up.

Mega pixels like screen size on TVs is what makes camera sell. Most people don't want to understand technology so much they just want to clatch on to one aspect in particular. There was a camera on TV earlier advertising 13MP for £99. I thought so? I don't anything else about it, that tells me virtually nothing.

That Fuji f20 and f30 only have 3x zooms, that's nowhere near enough for me. The Canon's look okay though (6x), although the G9 only has a 35mm wide angel lens, the G10 has a 28mm one.

My current camera (a Ricoh Caplio R5) has a 7.1x lens and is also 28mm, it's 7MP. I bought it a couple of years ago, they're up to the R8 but the R5 does me fine (except at concerts). It also has an amazing battery, when I was in Japan I only had to charge it up 3 times and I took thousands of photos over 3 weeks. It's also really small, perfect for drunken in your jeans pocket action.

Prior to this I had a Kodak EasyShare V610. It looked amazing, people's heads literally turned but it had no image stabilisation, didn't produce particularly great photos and my god the battery was shit. I had to take 2 maybe 3 batteries out on a night out. It just wouldn't last. It also felt a bit flimsy, not like the Ricoh which feels very well made. I had to get rid after only owning it 2 months. Thankfully I got most of my money back on eBay, it was still in warranty (thankfully transferable). Kodak just don't make very good cameras.

My sister recently bought the Panasonic Lumix DMC-T75, which is a really nice camera (10MP and 10x zoom) but is a bit bulky and it has that annoying plasticy effect which most digital cameras have. I much prefer the more real with a bit of grain look the Ricoh's produce. The Panasonic Lumix DMC-T75 technically produces great photos (and has a fantastic large screen) but like I said each photo looks plasticy and like a waxwork model.

That put me off getting a digital camera for years, they all had this problem. Which I guess technically isn't a problem, it's there by design. It has very vivid colours on the upside, more so than my camera, which is perfectly fine too.

[grim_tales]

The Scientist and Fix You are lovely

[EvaUnit02]

Indie rock = Rock with aesthetic/qualities that wouldn't necessarily apply to the tastes of a mainstream audience. (We aren't talking about the obvious literal definition of "not signed to a major label").

The garage rock band sound is probably what most people would usually classify as Indie. Also Lo-fi, shoegaving, 'post-<insert>'.

Invoking rock styles from previous eras is a common trait often associated with Indie.

The aforementioned 'post-<insert>' genres can be best described as taking popular style and sucking all the fun out of it.
Bad example but one that Brad might better recognise:-
Post-Britpop - That gloomy period in the early naughties where the fun Britpop fizzled out and there was a dreary two or three years when British bands like Travis had the spotlight.

Snow Patrol, Coldplay are entirely mainstream with a style, sound and lyrical content that strategically appeals to women en masse across a broad range of ages. Gastro's description label of "Mum-rock" is dead on, you could also file them under "sad men in the rain playing pianos".

[Markgway]

Coldplay... Duffy... Snow Patrol...

Is this the most boring music ever thread??

[bradavon]

Go on Mark, I'd love to see your taste in music? I bet it sucks big time .

[Markgway]

I don't have "a taste" as such...

I just hear something or someone and like it... or don't.

Throw a few names out there and I'll give you an honest opinion.

[bradavon]

How about you just let us know who you like? .

[romerojpg]

Not what you like, What you own

[saltysam]

Nick Heyward's North Of A Miracle is one of the 80's finest albums.

[Markgway]

How about you just let us know who you like? .

Because I can't be arsed thinking..... and I'm not much of a record collector.

[bradavon]