Bond 22 gearing up for pre-production

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 24 Jan 2008, 19:49

Thanks Girm.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 25 Jan 2008, 01:26

That's a shit title.

Sorry, but it is.

It would be like calling Lethal Weapon 5... "The Symbolism of Life"

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 25 Jan 2008, 02:13

It is a shit title but at least it's Flemming connected. It's still shit though. The thing is it was never the title of a novel but a subsection if you will.

dvdvision · Post by **dvdvision** » 25 Jan 2008, 08:10

Short novel. The point is, like they did in Casino Royale, the producers / studio will only use a title that you can make a 007 logo out of it (ie it has to have two "o"), so there's only two fleming titles left for this use, Quantum of Solace and Property of a Lady which I think will probably be Bond 23.
In any case, as long as the 007 logo is in the title, the title will not mean anything to the audience, as long as they can say "one ticket for 007", it'll work.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 25 Jan 2008, 11:33

Property of a Lady was already referenced in Octopussy.

dvdvision · Post by **dvdvision** » 25 Jan 2008, 11:37

That's why they went with QOS for this one

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 25 Jan 2008, 12:08

Why'd they have to use a Fleming title at all?

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 25 Jan 2008, 13:47

Because of the back to basics approach and Fleming wrote them

And people say I say dumb things.

Markgway wrote:Property of a Lady was already referenced in Octopussy.

And? They've re-used Bond plots before.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 25 Jan 2008, 16:19

bradavon wrote:Because of the back to basics approach and Fleming wrote them

Why are you winking? As if you've just said something clever? I'm well aware of the back-to-basics approach, but is it mandatory this be reflected in using a pretentious title? The titlular story won't even have anything to do with this film. What if one of Fleming's stories was called "Suck My Fat Cock, James" would they use that for the Bond 23? Movies are movies, not books, and they could've easily come up with something cooler.

And people say I say dumb things.

Well, you do. A lot.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 25 Jan 2008, 20:31

Now now...
When they run out of Flemming novels, couldnt they use some of John Gardner's stories?

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 25 Jan 2008, 20:35

Are they well written?

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 25 Jan 2008, 20:58

Markgway wrote:What if one of Fleming's stories was called "Suck My Fat Cock, James" would they use that for the Bond 23?

LOL

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 25 Jan 2008, 22:34

I think I only read "Win, Lose or Die", it was all right. But the point is soon they'll run out of Flemming's work and so they'll have to use something else.

Yi-Long · Post by **Yi-Long** » 25 Jan 2008, 23:03

grim_tales wrote:I think I only read "Win, Lose or Die", it was all right. But the point is soon they'll run out of Flemming's work and so they'll have to use something else.

Why would they run out? After CR and this coming flick, they can still do 'remakes' of the other good early Bond stories.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 25 Jan 2008, 23:07

You mean like Dr. No etc?
Well I guess Never Say Never Again was a Thunderball remake... is NSNA part of the official Bond canon?

Yi-Long · Post by **Yi-Long** » 25 Jan 2008, 23:37

Yeah, I certainly wouldnt mind remakes of those classic movies.
Hell, if they write it well and dont camp it up, they should also do remakes of the horrible Moore movies, just so those stories will finally be done properly.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 26 Jan 2008, 00:13

Yi-Long wrote:Hell, if they write it well and dont camp it up, they should also do remakes of the horrible Moore movies, just so those stories will finally be done properly.

God I hope not. You may not like the style but they're very much part of Bond history.

grim_tales wrote:But the point is soon they'll run out of Flemming's work and so they'll have to use something else.

They ran out yonks ago. That's why they're digging out the archives for his short stories, and have written new stories.

grim_tales wrote:is NSNA part of the official Bond canon?

No.

Yi-Long · Post by **Yi-Long** » 26 Jan 2008, 00:26

bradavon wrote:
Yi-Long wrote:Hell, if they write it well and dont camp it up, they should also do remakes of the horrible Moore movies, just so those stories will finally be done properly.
God I hope not. You may not like the style but they're very much part of Bond history.

The stories might very much be part of the Bond history, but I wouldnt wanna see those movies that messed those stories all up, so that's why I'd like some proper serious versions with a good actor, so it gets done right.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 26 Jan 2008, 02:12

The Moore films are part of History, they're a sign of the 80s. I like them for what they are.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 26 Jan 2008, 04:43

grim_tales wrote: is NSNA part of the official Bond canon?

No. Also to say that the Bond film series even has "canon fodder" is laughable, they'd have to have consistent continuity first.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 26 Jan 2008, 13:50

Some of the Moore films are great fun IMO

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 29 Jan 2008, 09:56

Cool poster:

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 29 Jan 2008, 10:29

QOS AKA Quality of Service

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 29 Jan 2008, 10:40

Looks fake to me. Like a screenshot taken, cut out and then photoshopped on a prepared background.

IronMonkey · Post by **IronMonkey** » 29 Jan 2008, 10:42

Of course its fake!

There won't be any actual posters around for a while yet. And you can pretty much guarantee they'll do the whole using the 'o's of "of" & "Solace" in the 007 symbol thing.