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Posted: 22 Sep 2006, 22:27
by grim_tales
LOL Brad means the cinema version of the film wasn't cut, silly :D

Posted: 22 Sep 2006, 22:36
by bradavon
No that's not what I meant. I was replying to Sky saying they're worried it will be cut.

Posted: 16 Oct 2006, 08:47
by slasher13
Fearless review is up on DVDActive

Interesting, about the subtitles see the following:
There was some concern that the subtitles on this disc would be of the ‘SDH’ variety, but that is not the case. While all dialogue (even English) is subtitled, there are no subs for effects like cheering crowds or thunderstorms. It’s slightly annoying that the English dialogue is needlessly subtitled, but it only affects around a half dozen lines so it’s not too much of a problem. Universal should really have included separate English and English SDH subtitles on the disc though. I was also somewhat disappointed with what appeared to be loose translations of the original dialogue, unless of course the word ‘wuss’ was commonplace in19th century China. At least one of the characters is also given a more ‘Western’ name (as Yueci becomes Moon).

Posted: 16 Oct 2006, 15:16
by tom2681
English dialogue is subtitled ?
YAY ! :lol:

Posted: 16 Oct 2006, 16:22
by slasher13
tom2681 wrote:English dialogue is subtitled ?
YAY ! :lol:
tis but a drop of the ocean for me..... :D

I will def get this, but once the price goes down :)

Posted: 16 Oct 2006, 16:57
by Markgway
I wonder what the Americans will do with this?

Posted: 16 Oct 2006, 17:41
by bradavon
Is it Universal in The States? If so I'm guessing identical or maybe a featurette. Now it has standard subs I'll pick it up (but will wait for the R1 first, R4 takes too long).

Like Slasher it will need to be under a tenner though.

At least the official DVD is dual layer so will have a higher bitrate than the other English subtitled versions (note: not official).

Posted: 16 Oct 2006, 21:22
by romerojpg
Yes the english bits need to be subbed, as they were horrific and barley what I call english! :mrgreen:

Posted: 27 Oct 2006, 20:21
by bradavon
R1 and HD-DVD Combo (with extras on both sides) details are up:

R1: http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=63144
HD-DVD Combo: http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=63145

The good:

* Uncut (I presume it has two cuts)
* Deleted Scenes
* "A Fearless Journey" Featurette

The bad:

* Possibly English HOH Subs!
* ATROCIOUS cover art, why didn't Universal re-use the UK cover art?

If it turns out to be the same cut & have proper subs I'm all over the HD-DVD Combo.

Posted: 27 Oct 2006, 23:26
by EvaUnit02
Yes, for once a HD-DVD combo which has the unrated cut on the SD-DVD side. It's all down to whether it has proper subs or not as Brad says.

Posted: 27 Oct 2006, 23:27
by thelostdragon
SD?

Posted: 27 Oct 2006, 23:49
by Markgway
Looks like both the R1 and R2 have HOH subs so it'll be the deleted scenes which make the R1 the more appealing prospect. Certainly not the ghastly cover art. The US theatrical release was PG-13, and since the version I saw here probably would've gotten an '18' about ten years ago, I presume their's was cut, and that the UNrated edition is what we in the UK saw.

Posted: 27 Oct 2006, 23:50
by EvaUnit02
Standard Definition, regular DVD in other words.

Posted: 27 Oct 2006, 23:52
by EvaUnit02
Markgway wrote:Looks like both the R1 and R2 have HOH subs
Did you miss the memo?

Posted: 27 Oct 2006, 23:59
by bradavon
EvaUnit02 wrote:Yes, for once a HD-DVD combo which has the unrated cut on the SD-DVD side. It's all down to whether it has proper subs or not as Brad says.
And the Unrated cut is the same cut we got (or is a longer cut of course).
thelostdragon wrote:SD?
What's the opposite to HD? Standard Definition. Not much point adding it I know.
Markgway wrote:Looks like both the R1 and R2 have HOH subs
Nope read the DVD Active review above. The UK R2 has normal subs but they do sub the English too (despite the actual cover in shops saying it's HOH).
Markgway wrote:The US theatrical release was PG-13, and since the version I saw here probably would've gotten an '18' about ten years ago, I presume their's was cut, and that the UNrated edition is what we in the UK saw.
I suspecting/hoping the same, considering I'm not expecting any longer cut.

Posted: 28 Oct 2006, 00:07
by thelostdragon
Uhm... I know the longer cut was recently announced (even saw pictures of Jet Li fighting a Muay Thai fighter) to be released with English subtitles. It's probably written somewhere here, but I'm honestly too lazy to browse through the whole 12 pages.

Sooooo... anybody have the news at hand?

Posted: 28 Oct 2006, 01:33
by bradavon
I don't remember reading it, are you sure it was here?

Posted: 28 Oct 2006, 02:49
by Markgway
Why they sub the English dialogue is beyond me?

That's surely an HOH concession?

Posted: 28 Oct 2006, 13:11
by bradavon
Maybe but not actually HOH. There's not much English dialogue right? If so it doesn't bother me.

It bothered me more in Kill Bill JP where there was little non-English dialogue.

Posted: 28 Oct 2006, 17:07
by EvaUnit02
News of the R4, but no specs yet. Will probably be identical to the R2UK as Universal discs are usually dual-encoded for R2/4.. I don't see anyone bothering with this one, especially in wake of the R1 releases (Unless the R1's have HOH captions like <winds howls>, etc).

Posted: 28 Oct 2006, 18:28
by Markgway
It's bizarre that suitable English subs are not supplied for a film that was released theatrically in a non-Enlgish language.

Posted: 29 Oct 2006, 13:24
by bradavon
See Romero I told you Mark and I were right (not conclusive but it's looking likely):
Originally Posted by Aretak:
The sellsheet thingumy confirms that the 'unrated' version is the original theatrical version.
Source: http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=63145

Posted: 29 Oct 2006, 22:04
by bradavon
Now just to hear if the subs aren't messed up and I'll be ordering it (the HD-DVD Combo). I'm looking forward to seeing the deleted scenes.

Dave knows his stuff:
Originally Posted by DaveF:
The sellsheet says "Explosive UNRATED EDITION contains Original Theatrical Version". All that means is you get the Unrated and original (as in the US release) Theatrical Cut on the disc.
http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=63145

Posted: 29 Oct 2006, 22:44
by thelostdragon
bradavon wrote:I don't remember reading it, are you sure it was here?
Damnit. Where have I seen this again? I'd wait and buy the extended version.

Posted: 29 Oct 2006, 22:54
by tom2681
Yep. Ronny Yu said he'd try to get it released before the end of the year.