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Posted: 30 Mar 2009, 14:52
by bradavon
Google Image search for me. I cannot be arsed putting discs in.

Posted: 30 Mar 2009, 14:54
by gasteropod
Lazy bugger!

Posted: 30 Mar 2009, 15:00
by Markgway
bradavon wrote:
Markgway wrote:idn't the R1 UE fix the red snow?
Really? Did it come out later?
Yes.

https://www.bulletsnbabesdvd.com/forums/ ... php?t=2945
They better also fix Goldeneye, that one was a cropped mess.
Absofuckinglutely.

Posted: 30 Mar 2009, 16:23
by RickyTheDragonSteamboat
Back to the topic, the DD Fong Sai Yuk will probably be more or less like the French dvd which also uses "The Legend of..." title. One thing that concerns me though is that on DD's cover the word "Legend" is HUGE while "Fong Sai Yuk" sits at the bottom barely visible. I hope the 100min run time holds up.

Posted: 30 Mar 2009, 17:28
by bradavon
I didn't even spot it said "Fong Sai-Yuk" at all.

Posted: 18 May 2009, 14:33
by grim_tales
Fong Sai Yuk will be released on May 26.
On HK Flix the cover says "The Legend" in letters (with "of Fong Sai Yuk" in much smaller letters).

http://www.hkflix.com/xq/asp/filmID.549 ... etails.htm

Posted: 18 May 2009, 16:51
by chenlung
grim_tales wrote:Fong Sai Yuk will be released on May 26.
On HK Flix the cover says "The Legend" in letters (with "of Fong Sai Yuk" in much smaller letters).

http://www.hkflix.com/xq/asp/filmID.549 ... etails.htm
Bey Logan said it's going to be the Dimension version with a Cantonese soundtrack cut to fit. Unlike other releases, it attempts to retrieve the original title though.

Posted: 18 May 2009, 18:20
by bradavon
Cool, thanks guys. How badly cut is the Dimension USA Cut?

One to consider, there is no even half decent English subtitled version.

Posted: 18 May 2009, 18:29
by chenlung
bradavon wrote:Cool, thanks guys. How badly cut is the Dimension USA Cut?

One to consider, there is no even half decent English subtitled version.
I think it may have been about 10 minutes of cuts. I can't remember exactly - there was a list of changes at the (now disappeared) alliance for respectful treatment of Asian films aimed at Miramax.

The Universe DVD is very slightly cut, 5.1, PAL>NTSC and non-anamorphic, but it's English subtitled. Not great, but would do I suppose.

From there, there's the non-English subtitled anamorphic, uncut and mono French and Japanese DVDs. I think (like much of HK cinema) a custom would be better.

Visually, the Dimension DVD will probably look the best levels-wise (despite being non-anamorphic).

Posted: 18 May 2009, 18:33
by HungFist
chenlung wrote: From there, there's the non-English subtitled anamorphic, uncut and mono French and Japanese DVDs.
Which one is better?

Posted: 18 May 2009, 18:42
by chenlung
HungFist wrote:
chenlung wrote: From there, there's the non-English subtitled anamorphic, uncut and mono French and Japanese DVDs.
Which one is better?
The French as it's progressive - I think the mono soundtrack will be in a far better state as well.

I don't think either look fantastic visually, but I'm sure a bit of touching up of the French would make it look very acceptable.

Posted: 18 May 2009, 20:38
by bradavon
chenlung wrote:I think it may have been about 10 minutes of cuts. I can't remember exactly - there was a list of changes at the (now disappeared) alliance for respectful treatment of Asian films aimed at Miramax.
Thanks. That's a lot.
chenlung wrote:The Universe DVD is very slightly cut, 5.1, PAL>NTSC and non-anamorphic, but it's English subtitled. Not great, but would do I suppose.
That's the one I have. I never knew it was PAL to NTSC too but have only ever had a quick check of it. The 5.1 for what it's worth, it's as bad as Tai Chi Master Universe.

Posted: 18 May 2009, 20:51
by chenlung
Thanks. That's a lot.
It might not be 10 minutes, I could be wrong.
That's the one I have. I never knew it was PAL to NTSC too but have only ever had a quick check of it.
I think it's PAL>NTSC. I'd have to check.
The 5.1 for what it's worth, it's as bad as Tai Chi Master Universe.
To be honest, the 5.1s aren't as bad as the likes of 'Warriors Two' and 'Chinese Boxer'.

Posted: 19 May 2009, 00:40
by Shingster
I believe The Legend has a runtime around 95min, the HK DVD says 106min on the back of the case, so if that's with PAL speed up then you're looking at around 15min footage lost from the DD version.

Posted: 19 May 2009, 04:11
by Markgway
How many times can one film be fucked-up?

Any cred that DD had has all but evaporated.

Posted: 19 May 2009, 07:35
by grim_tales
I didnt know the Universe DVD was cut, how come it's cut as well? If it was the HK DVD you would think it would be uncut.

Posted: 19 May 2009, 10:10
by chenlung
It's missing about 5 seconds. Nothing serious.

DD tried, but can't get the uncut version due to red tape in HK.

Posted: 19 May 2009, 10:30
by grim_tales
Thanks :)

Posted: 19 May 2009, 11:40
by Killer Meteor
chenlung wrote:It's missing about 5 seconds. Nothing serious.

DD tried, but can't get the uncut version due to red tape in HK.
What red tape? Do HK film companies enjoy screwing their clients?

Posted: 19 May 2009, 12:21
by bradavon
Markgway wrote:How many times can one film be fucked-up? Any cred that DD had has all but evaporated.
It was to be expected this would be the Dimension cut.

On the upside, at least it fixes many of the problems with the HK DVD. Although I agree in principle.
chenlung wrote:DD tried, but can't get the uncut version due to red tape in HK.
Does this apply to all DD DVDs of Dimension cuts?

Posted: 19 May 2009, 20:42
by Markgway
Ivan Drago wrote:
chenlung wrote:It's missing about 5 seconds. Nothing serious.

DD tried, but can't get the uncut version due to red tape in HK.
What red tape? Do HK film companies enjoy screwing their clients?
Yeah, you know that's bullshit as the French managed to get an uncut version without bother. Channel 4 showed it uncut on TV FFS!

Posted: 19 May 2009, 21:19
by chenlung
Markgway wrote:
Ivan Drago wrote:
chenlung wrote:It's missing about 5 seconds. Nothing serious.

DD tried, but can't get the uncut version due to red tape in HK.
What red tape? Do HK film companies enjoy screwing their clients?
Yeah, you know that's bullshit as the French managed to get an uncut version without bother. Channel 4 showed it uncut on TV FFS!
I think Channel 4 was missing a second of the burning body after the opening fight.

I think the French obtained their version ages ago (the Japanese released theirs in 2003) - perhaps this attitude from HK companies is a recently established one where they're just not giving a shit anymore.

Posted: 19 May 2009, 21:33
by bradavon
A second would be marvellous next to 10 minutes or so. More likely the HK studios wanted too much.

Posted: 19 May 2009, 22:19
by Shingster
Why would DD even bother with obtaining a chinese print when they've been perfectly happy to use the Dimension prints for just about every other release to date?

Posted: 19 May 2009, 22:55
by chenlung
Shingster wrote:Why would DD even bother with obtaining a chinese print when they've been perfectly happy to use the Dimension prints for just about every other release to date?
LOL it's already been explained ;)!

'Tai Chi Master' is the only previously-owned Dimension title to have a non-Dimension version and instead, the export version (Dimension's shorter dub fills in the gaps with jumps to the 1993 dub). A mess of a release really (bad 5.1, downmix, frame issues, English dub issues, ropey subtitles, etc).

I don't know how some of it works. DD may only have the Cantonese soundtrack rights if they're reasonably priced, although it doesn't explain 'My Father Is A Hero's lack of Cantonese, and the access to 'TCM's export print.

Bey responded to someone (who then posted it on the forum) saying they weren't able to get the HK scenes for 'Fong Sai Yuk' - the HK company doesn't give a shit about their fans.