Holy Sh*t Play have killed off HKL's website! ;-)

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 27 Mar 2006, 11:18

Are they? I'm not sure. The HK disc wouldnt have "UK version deleted scenes".

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 27 Mar 2006, 13:04

That HKL of Seven Swords sounds like a waste of time. I'll stick with my R3HK 2-discer, the extras are reportedly subbed too (haven't bothered to watch the extras yet).

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 27 Mar 2006, 13:24

Me neither.

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 27 Mar 2006, 13:52

grim_tales wrote:The HK dusc wouldnt have "UK version deleted scenes".

Yeah, but that's because they're in the film already.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 27 Mar 2006, 15:24

LOL fair enough

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 27 Mar 2006, 19:12

DVD Times have a better spec. list + the names of the deleted scenes here:

http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=60904

Oh cover art is included too. HKL are even rubbing our noses in it but using a tag line from:

Thrilling - Uncut

Magazine

grim_tales wrote:LOL why would Mark be pissed?

Because it's a re-release box set, he seems to hate them.

grim_tales wrote:But look at this - there's a Bruce Lee Platinum Box set out in October, containing the PE's of TBB, Fist of Fury, Way of the Dragon and Gane of Death

You sound surprised?

It should be a 9 disc box set IMO and include that 6th Exclusive bonus disc which is part of the current box set.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 27 Mar 2006, 19:14

Is it cut in the UK? I thought this was left uncut? It looks like they've changed the ending too? Going by the DVD Times/Play spec.

What on earth are the "Original Version Deleted Scenes"? Some of the original cut footage maybe???

# UK Version Deleted Scenes (x6 including Original Ending)
# Original Version Deleted Scenes (x4)

Editor's comments:

All I know is the HK DVD runs 153mins, the version released in UK Cinemas runs 140mins, and this DVD is listed with a running time of 135mins (which roughly accounts for the PAL speedup). I don't like listing the titles of deleted scenes (no doubt someone would claim there is a spoiler in there somewhere) but in case it helps...

UK Version Deleted Scenes
Heaven's Fall Sees Too Much; Searching The Desert; Conflict Underground; A Darker Plot; A Longer Struggle; Original Ending.

Original Version Deleted Scenes
The Seventh Sword; A Defiant Village; Refusal To Sing; Love Triangle.

thelostdragon wrote:Apart from the trailers, the extras are the same as the HK disc, aren't they?

Not at all, HK DVD extras:

Making Of (17:32)
Shooting Diaries (19:52)
The Swords – The Swordsmen
News Clip of the Hong Kong Gala Premere (3:30)
The Duel: Dragon vs Transience (6:12)
Photo Gallery

The extras do look much better on the HKL, only the Making Of. and Shooting Diaries look to be copied.

DVD Times HK DVD Review: http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=59353

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 27 Mar 2006, 19:21

From what I can gather:
-Yes, the UK DVD will be cut (by 12-15 minutes).
-Yes, the cut footage will be presented as "UK deleted scenes".
-Apparently some of the footage that was removed to make the 153min version will be presented as "Original deleted scenes".

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 27 Mar 2006, 19:23

Tom2681 wrote:-Apparently some of the footage that was removed to make the 153min version will be presented as "Original deleted scenes".

That's cool, remember that uber expensive HK LE it looks to have the deleted scenes too + an English subtitled commentary:

http://www.cd-wow.com/detail_results_2. ... ode=260266

Pity it's cut as the extras are looking much better than the HK DVD ones, they're actually very limited. I'll get the cheap HK DVD then.

It's even more annoying when you consider they could've added both sets of deleted scenes back in and had a really nice 2 Disc Set! This really is stupid as it's to short anyway, making it even shorter makes no sense. People who buy the HKL will just be even more confused.

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 27 Mar 2006, 20:58

uber expensive HK LE is a lot cheaper elsewhere

cdwow aint cheap! scary more like it. I paid over 10 quid less than that, its a georgous set mind you.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 27 Mar 2006, 21:45

Oh yeah good point. CD WOW are often the cheapest but sometimes they opt for nutty prices.

There's a new HK DVD of this:

1. The original 2 discer
2. The same as above with LE postcards
3. The 3 Disc LE (the one at CD WOW)
4. On the 30/03/06 it's being released again this time without the LE stuff but otherwise identical.

Both numbers 2 and 3 have DTS, and because of this has been split across 2 discs. I don't like the sound of that but it does have those deleted scenes + commentary.

The new 3 Disc Standard Edition is HK $145/£10.70 at DDDHouse:

http://www.dddhouse.com/dddhouse/en/ind ... uctID=5325

It's not up at CD WOW yet. Brad wanders off to cancel his 2 disc CD WOW order and ask about this.

The new 3 Disc DVD looks the way to go!

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 31 Mar 2006, 19:42

Hey,

Did I say The Big Boss: PE has been put back till July?

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 05 Apr 2006, 13:12

I think we lost them.
Rest in Peace, HKL.

Knetan · Post by **Knetan** » 05 Apr 2006, 14:51

hey,

wait til you find the cover for Peacock King. The era of Ringu is upon us, affecting even films not even remotely associated with it.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 05 Apr 2006, 15:15

@ Tom,

I think you're right, we dont want these bloody boxsets.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 05 Apr 2006, 15:41

I'll make one big anti-Contender/HKL/PA rant and be done with it.

[Rant mode on]

How can we possibly have any respect for a company that:
-crops its DVDs to hide print damage.
-frequently uses dubtitles despite having a team of skilled linguists.
-uses the same interviews over and over again.
-uses too much grain removal (makes the picture soft).
-frequently replaces title cards.
-uses rap music in its trailers.
-lie to their customers in their trailers (saying that Jackie is the star of My Lucky Stars / That Volcano High is an action film).
-would rather use an international print than the original cut.
-asks Maggie Q to say that Dragon From Russia is a brainless action flick. (she isn't even in the bloody film !).
-frequently puts the films they haven't been able to sell in boxsets.
-releases some of its films in the wrong aspect ratio (Project A 2, Police Story, Police Story 2).
-is willing to release censored films (if the BBFC want to cut it, then HKL should have the balls to say "We're not releasing it, then").
-use misleading covers (The Lucky Stars trilogy / Heart of Dragon).
-rescores films.

[/Rant mode off]

Just because they have released some must-have dvds doesn't tip the scale IMO.

Goodbye, HKL. Goodbye, Premier Asia.
Go to hell, Contender Group.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 05 Apr 2006, 15:55

Forgive me but what was wrong with Project A 2? I have that DVD (I havent seen it in a while though).
Yeah, HKL have gone downhill IMO

gasteropod · Post by **gasteropod** » 05 Apr 2006, 16:37

Project A 2 is stretched or something, isn't it?

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 05 Apr 2006, 17:00

Vertically squished, yes. Just like Police Story 1.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 05 Apr 2006, 17:14

Tom2681 wrote:Just because they have released some must-have dvds doesn't tip the scale IMO.

More good than bad IMO.

I own about 15 and there are 2-3 more I want but I'm not a mega big fan of HK cinema anyway so it doesn't hugely bother me. I have much more interest in the Premier Asia range, which of course isn't doing to well either. I have even more interested in Tartan's releases.

Tom2681 wrote:I'll make one big anti-Contender/HKL/PA rant and be done with it.

Now if only Yi-long would

Tom2681 wrote:-frequently uses dubtitles despite having a team of skilled linguists.

They don't still do this do they?

Tom2681 wrote:-asks Maggie Q to say that Dragon From Russia is a brainless action flick. (she isn't even in the bloody film !).

Huh?

Tom2681 wrote:-is willing to release censored films (if the BBFC want to cut it, then HKL should have the balls to say "We're not releasing it, then").

And that makes sense???

Tom2681 wrote:-uses rap music in its trailers.

Do you really care? I think this is a good idea in some ways, it will probably make people want to see it more (Joe Public). A trailer is a form of advertising.

Yi-Long · Post by **Yi-Long** » 05 Apr 2006, 17:22

bradavon wrote:
Tom2681 wrote:Just because they have released some must-have dvds doesn't tip the scale IMO.
More good than bad IMO.

I own about 15 and there are 2-3 more I want but I'm not a mega big fan of HK cinema anyway so it doesn't hugely bother me.

I have much more interest in the Premier Asia range.

Tom2681 wrote:I'll make one big anti-Contender/HKL/PA rant and be done with it.
Now if only Yi-long would

I pretty much agree with the stuff Tom has mentioned, of which some things bother me more then others...
I have alot of HKL's which I'm satisfied with, but they have also fucked up bigtime with a bunch of releases, and lately they seem to have made a habbit out of this...

Too bad. They had so much potential. Why cant those people in charge overthere be any smarter!?

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 05 Apr 2006, 17:26

TYG news:

"Warrior King Coming Soon!
03/04/06
Bak...With A Vengeance

Tony Jaa is back and this time he is really pissed off! The star of 'Ong Bak' returns in a with some awesome Muay Thai action, prepared to be amazed as the action just getting bigger and better.

Out in the cinemas in the Summer, take a sneak peek at the movie poster!"

http://www.premierasia.co.uk/index.php?category_id=1

Shen · Post by **Shen** » 05 Apr 2006, 17:32

i really hope that there will eb different release of this also, i was gonna get the thai release, but i wanted to show my aunt this movie, and well i think enlgishsubtitles are needed for this...the PA ongbak is ok , but i really hope that they wont use that poster as their cover....

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 05 Apr 2006, 17:35

Weinstein owns the R1 and R4 so it maybe the best DVD out there or more likely the Korean DVD.

Knetan · Post by **Knetan** » 05 Apr 2006, 17:53

hey,

this may not look like much of a cover crime but believe me, no one having watched Peacock King feels this cover echoes anything in it (few may not even remember it fondly either but it has its moments):

http://www.play.com/play247.asp?pa=pba& ... tle=917879

As is often the case, the director's name gets one of its many versions. Should be along the lines of Lam Nam-choi. I believe HKL got that right for their Story Of Ricky cover so...