Why are the Bruce Lee movies "18"?
-
grim_tales
- Bruce Lee's Fist
- Posts: 22166
- Joined: 25 Oct 2004, 17:34
- Location: St. Albans, UK
Why are the Bruce Lee movies "18"?
I thought about this when I saw Hapkido because some of the action/setting - at times anyway, seemed about the same level of brutality (neck breaking, throat/knee chops etc) as some of the Bruce films. No nanchukus of course, yet Hapkido was only a "15", how so is it something like "Way of the Dragon" (which isnt really very violent) is an "18"? 
-
tom2681
- Bruce Lee's Fist
- Posts: 5577
- Joined: 25 Oct 2004, 15:18
- Location: Where you'll never find me
Why is a kung-fu comedy like Snake in the Eagle's Shadow 18 ?
The mysteries of the BBFC...
I don't think it's Bruce-specific.
The mysteries of the BBFC...
I don't think it's Bruce-specific.
I used to be "the man who loves the movies you hate".
Now I'm just "that weird french guy with a cat avatar who comes to BnB once a year for no reason and then disappears again".
Now I'm just "that weird french guy with a cat avatar who comes to BnB once a year for no reason and then disappears again".
-
thelostdragon
- Bruce Lee's Fist
- Posts: 7059
- Joined: 29 Oct 2004, 22:36
- Location: Basin City
-
RickyTheDragonSteamboat
- Pedicab Driver
- Posts: 265
- Joined: 07 Dec 2006, 23:54
-
Markgway
- Bruce Lee's Fist
- Posts: 20195
- Joined: 18 Feb 2005, 02:04
The BBFC have always treated Bruce Lee harshly largely because kids and teenagers imitated him from the getgo. Whilst they've waived the censor cuts they've never admitted to being too strict with the ratings. Having said that: BOSS, FIST and ENTER probably do deserves '18's due to the strong physical violence and technique. I think WAY and GAME should be reduced to '15's though, personally. SNAKE, also, should be reduced to a '15'. Even worse is DRAGON LORD; that should be a '12' not an '18'. Madness.
-
thelostdragon
- Bruce Lee's Fist
- Posts: 7059
- Joined: 29 Oct 2004, 22:36
- Location: Basin City
All film boards, be it the BBFC, MPAA or the FSK in Germany are very unlogical.
"Cop Land"
BBFC: 18
MPAA: R
FSK: 12
The FSK gave "The Weather Man" with Nicolas Cage a 6 classification. That means you have to be 6 years old before you can listen to people talking about camel toes, using the F-word like dozens of times and talking about oral sex. Well...
"Cop Land"
BBFC: 18
MPAA: R
FSK: 12
The FSK gave "The Weather Man" with Nicolas Cage a 6 classification. That means you have to be 6 years old before you can listen to people talking about camel toes, using the F-word like dozens of times and talking about oral sex. Well...
-
Markgway
- Bruce Lee's Fist
- Posts: 20195
- Joined: 18 Feb 2005, 02:04
-
Killer Meteor
- Hail the Judge!
- Posts: 2380
- Joined: 16 Mar 2005, 23:05
Interestingly, the BBFC have reversed decisions. The Terminator and The Wicker Man were 18 on video but on DVD are 15.
Bruce's films are more 15 material but the 18 rating made them seem extreme to me as a kid, especially with the black and white covers on the UK tapes
Bruce's films are more 15 material but the 18 rating made them seem extreme to me as a kid, especially with the black and white covers on the UK tapes
bradavon wrote:
but I guess you're more intelligence than me.
but I guess you're more intelligence than me.
-
Shingster
- Bruce Lee's Fist
- Posts: 4140
- Joined: 08 Sep 2006, 10:14
I'm pretty sure that Way of Dragon and Game of Death are 18 because of the amount of Nunchuk violence, maybe if the films were re-submitted today they might recieve the lower 15 rating, but I doubt it. Every few years the BBFC tend to reassess their policies and decide to become more lenient on some aspect or more strict on another, same goes for any censorship board really, so this sometimes (though obviously not always) explains appraent inconcistencies between films.
-
Markgway
- Bruce Lee's Fist
- Posts: 20195
- Joined: 18 Feb 2005, 02:04
-
BiscLimpkit
- Bruce Lee's Fist
- Posts: 4727
- Joined: 25 Oct 2004, 21:33
- Location: Scotland
Re: Why are the Bruce Lee movies "18"?
Violence isn't really relavent when it comes to differentiating between a 15 and an 18 rating (unless it's an extreme case). As Mark and Shingster have already said, it's about how youths imitate what they see on screen.grim_tales wrote: how so is it something like "Way of the Dragon" (which isnt really very violent) is an "18"?
TBH, I don't think some 21 year olds should be allowed to watch Bruce Lee films. However, our society says that by 18, we are all adults and mature enough to make our own decisions (yeah right).
I think that the BBFC would still keep all Bruce Lee films 18 if resubmitted today. I certainly would.
At the moment, the BBFC's current policies are a lot more structured than the other two. BBFC aren't perfect but far better than the PC of the MPAA and FSK.thelostdragon wrote:All film boards, be it the BBFC, MPAA or the FSK in Germany are very unlogical.

-
EvaUnit02
- Bruce Lee's Fist
- Posts: 9150
- Joined: 08 Feb 2005, 14:39
- Location: Wellywood, Kiwiland
-
Killer Meteor
- Hail the Judge!
- Posts: 2380
- Joined: 16 Mar 2005, 23:05
-
bradavon
- Bruce Lee's Fist
- Posts: 24430
- Joined: 27 Oct 2004, 19:30
-
EvaUnit02
- Bruce Lee's Fist
- Posts: 9150
- Joined: 08 Feb 2005, 14:39
- Location: Wellywood, Kiwiland
-
grim_tales
- Bruce Lee's Fist
- Posts: 22166
- Joined: 25 Oct 2004, 17:34
- Location: St. Albans, UK
-
BiscLimpkit
- Bruce Lee's Fist
- Posts: 4727
- Joined: 25 Oct 2004, 21:33
- Location: Scotland
-
grim_tales
- Bruce Lee's Fist
- Posts: 22166
- Joined: 25 Oct 2004, 17:34
- Location: St. Albans, UK
-
bradavon
- Bruce Lee's Fist
- Posts: 24430
- Joined: 27 Oct 2004, 19:30
Ah but you are now.Ivan Drago wrote:Yeah but it wasn't that long ago I wasn't and had to rely on the whim and generosity of my parents
Personally I like to discuss if I think it's appropriate for kids, plus I'll be a father one day. Salty even is.
And look how you turned outEvaUnit02 wrote:My parents never really cared, I could pretty much watch anything except Pr0n.Ivan Drago wrote:Yeah but it wasn't that long ago I wasn't and had to rely on the whim and generosity of my parents
p.s - Sex is bad but violence is fine. I don't get your parents logic personally but hey ho each to their own.
-
BiscLimpkit
- Bruce Lee's Fist
- Posts: 4727
- Joined: 25 Oct 2004, 21:33
- Location: Scotland
-
thelostdragon
- Bruce Lee's Fist
- Posts: 7059
- Joined: 29 Oct 2004, 22:36
- Location: Basin City
-
EvaUnit02
- Bruce Lee's Fist
- Posts: 9150
- Joined: 08 Feb 2005, 14:39
- Location: Wellywood, Kiwiland
-
Markgway
- Bruce Lee's Fist
- Posts: 20195
- Joined: 18 Feb 2005, 02:04
Probably because it's easier to watch DIE HARD with your parents than SHOWGIRLS.Sex is bad but violence is fine. I don't get your parents logic personally but hey ho each to their own.
Brad: "Hey Mum, you don't mind if I shoot my load while we watch do you?"
Mum: "No problem, Bradley. Remember to use a tissue.... and close your eyes at the violent bits."
Brad: "Gee, thanks Mum. You're the best!"
-
bradavon
- Bruce Lee's Fist
- Posts: 24430
- Joined: 27 Oct 2004, 19:30
BiscLimpkit wrote:TBH, it's a bit awkward watching porn with the parents.
Thanks, why? I'd always be open about sex and explain what it's all about.thelostdragon wrote:Good luck with raising your kids then.
Too true. I bet most of us are different offline.EvaUnit02 wrote:Online behaviour is not necessarily a reflection of the real-life equivalent.
Who said anything about watching it with your parents???Markgway wrote:Probably because it's easier to watch DIE HARD with your parents than SHOWGIRLS
Besides I'm willing to bet "being embarrassed" has nothing to do with some parents being against their kids watching porn, that was my point.

