The Official "Dragon Dynasty" Thread!

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 12 Jan 2007, 16:04

TYG UE review:-
http://www.dvdactive.com/reviews/dvd/pr ... n-the.html

LOL:-
The great stuff begins, as it should, with Bey Logan's commentary track. Unfortunately Logan has only supplied a track for the shorter US version of the film, and spends a bit too much time defending the new cut.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 12 Jan 2007, 18:24

Quelle surprise!

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 12 Jan 2007, 19:15

I'd love to hear Bey's excuses!

If they had included DTS on the Director's Cut I wouldn't have minded it being there period but to bung the DC on disc 2 and not include DTS strikes me as contempt.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 13 Jan 2007, 00:27

bradavon wrote:I'd love to hear Bey's excuses!

I've heard them all before. I used to respect Bey a lot but he's definately sold out.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 13 Jan 2007, 00:53

What are they?

DangerousLeeHandsome · Post by **DangerousLeeHandsome** » 16 Jan 2007, 02:45

Markgway wrote:
bradavon wrote:I'd love to hear Bey's excuses!
I've heard them all before. I used to respect Bey a lot but he's definately sold out.

Sold out? OK, so he works for the infamous Weinstein Bros but I wouldn't call him a sell-out. He's cool.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 16 Jan 2007, 05:33

I remember Bey from way back when he started Impact.

He's changed a lot since then.

I can't picture that Bey defending the chopping up and re-scoring (and general disrespecting) of Asian Cinema like now Bey does.

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 16 Jan 2007, 14:55

Markgway wrote:I remember Bey from way back when he started Impact.

He's changed a lot since then.

I can't picture that Bey defending the chopping up and re-scoring (and general disrespecting) of Asian Cinema like now Bey does.

You know, people do develope and change, Mark, whether you like the direction or not.

Yi-Long · Post by **Yi-Long** » 16 Jan 2007, 16:21

I'm not sure if Bey changed. I doubt he has ever condemned the cutting of movies by western companies, and thinks more of it as a wise business-decision from those companies to target a potentially bigger audience.

I certainly dont agree with him, and I think he's an idiot for even thinking that way, but hey, that's his opinion and it brought him in the position he is in today... (sadly).

It's a shame, really... cause if he had been a real fan of asian cinema, he could have done lots of great things for both the asian movie-industry, as well as for the fans.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 16 Jan 2007, 18:56

Yi-Long wrote:It's a shame, really... cause if he had been a real fan of asian cinema, he could have done lots of great things for both the asian movie-industry, as well as for the fans.

Indeed, especially when he does have influence.

Yeah I think he says it from a business perspective, even if that perspective is flawed.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 16 Jan 2007, 21:04

Yi-Long wrote:I'm not sure if Bey changed. I doubt he has ever condemned the cutting of movies by western companies, and thinks more of it as a wise business-decision from those companies to target a potentially bigger audience.

You could be right, since back then nobody cared enough to even consider butchering these movies or putting them in cinemas. The only way you would say any Chinese film in a cinema was Chinatown. Maybe all along Bey was wishing for a revolution.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 16 Jan 2007, 22:53

IA Trilogy DD Box set Spec. is up:

http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releases/ ... airs3.html

Good to see the IA2 commentary finally English subtitled but otherwise there is nothing here to beat the UK Tartan effort which has DTS for all films.

The extras are clearly ported from the HK DVDs, which is all Tartan did in the UK and Madman in Australia did too.

Nothing to see, move along . . .

RickyTheDragonSteamboat · Post by **RickyTheDragonSteamboat** » 17 Jan 2007, 01:37

I'm really looking forward to the IA Trilogy boxset. I already own the Media Asia dvds but it's nice to get subs on the commentary.

Well I just picked up The Protector and Seven Swords and the SS disc looks impressive. The movie sucks but the DVD is pretty solid. Not bad for $17. The Protector is questionable but who cares. At least they had the sense to include the long version.

Yi-Long · Post by **Yi-Long** » 17 Jan 2007, 01:49

RickyTheDragonSteamboat wrote:I'm really looking forward to the IA Trilogy boxset. I already own the Media Asia dvds but it's nice to get subs on the commentary.

Well I just picked up The Protector and Seven Swords and the SS disc looks impressive. The movie sucks but the DVD is pretty solid. Not bad for $17. The Protector is questionable but who cares. At least they had the sense to include the long version.

Why didnt you just get the R2 of TYG?

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 17 Jan 2007, 03:24

Yi-Long wrote:Why didnt you just get the R2 of TYG?

My guess would be that he probably lives in North America.

Yi-Long · Post by **Yi-Long** » 17 Jan 2007, 08:20

EvaUnit02 wrote:
Yi-Long wrote:Why didnt you just get the R2 of TYG?
My guess would be that he probably lives in North America.

Well, yeah... but I'm sure people have region-free players over there as well, dont they? So he could just order it from CD-wow or Play or whatever?

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 17 Jan 2007, 14:06

Yi-Long wrote:Well, yeah... but I'm sure people have region-free players over there as well, dont they? So he could just order it from CD-wow or Play or whatever?

Actually, region free players and multisystem (NTSC & PAL playback) TVs weren't all that widely available in North America until fairly recently, from my understandings of it.

Probably because there was just no demand in the market for it over there for several years. As you know in the early years of DVD, the R1 territory generally had the best releases.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 17 Jan 2007, 18:17

RickyTheDragonSteamboat wrote:I'm really looking forward to the IA Trilogy boxset. I already own the Media Asia dvds but it's nice to get subs on the commentary.

It's only for IA2. They never recorded a commentary for IA3 and IA being the same messed up Disney DVD means still no commentary.

To get a IA commentary you'll need to pick up the UK Tartan DVD.

bleeper · Post by **bleeper** » 17 Jan 2007, 19:23

I can't find any Dragon dynasty DVDs in the UK shops, what's up with that?

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 17 Jan 2007, 19:32

bleeper wrote:I can't find any Dragon dynasty DVDs in the UK shops, what's up with that?

DD are a USA label under the Genius Products label which is owned by The Weinstein company.

They don't sell their DVDs outside The States.

bleeper · Post by **bleeper** » 17 Jan 2007, 19:36

What the fuck, how the hell am i supposed to get SPL in the UK with extras and everything? Man this a fucking shit deal.

grim_tales · Post by **grim_tales** » 17 Jan 2007, 19:40

Can't you just import the R1?

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 17 Jan 2007, 19:41

bleeper wrote:What the fuck, how the hell am i supposed to get SPL in the UK with extras and everything? Man this a fucking shit deal.

You import it???

HKL are a UK based distributor and only distribute in the UK, Holland through a deal with Universal Australia. Same thing.

HungFist · Post by **HungFist** » 17 Jan 2007, 19:45

bradavon wrote:
bleeper wrote:What the fuck, how the hell am i supposed to get SPL in the UK with extras and everything? Man this a fucking shit deal.
You import it???

HKL are a UK based distributor and only distribute in the UK, Holland through a deal with Universal Australia. Same thing.

Nordic countries through Universal, too. And mainland china through bootleg companies

RickyTheDragonSteamboat · Post by **RickyTheDragonSteamboat** » 17 Jan 2007, 19:49

Well I finally gave The Protector discs a spin and the cool thing is that the version on disc 2 is the actual Thai theatrical version with outtakes and all. Every other version (uncut or not) had plain old end credits over a black screen. Haven't finshed disc 1 yet however I am appauled to hear that most of the Thai dialogue has been looped into English! Only Tony Jaa's Thai is intact. Thai people with Chinese accents? Pretty fucking hilarious!