The Warlords (Jet Li, Andy Lau & Takeshi Kaneshiro)

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 06 Jan 2007, 16:05

Title: The Warlords
Director: Peter Chan
Country: China
Actors: Jet Li, Andy Lau, Takeshi Kaneshiro, Xu Jing-Lei
Release Date: December 2007

It's a remake of Shaw Brothers classic Blood Brothers.
Except that this one is set in the Qing dynasty.

Expect a big epic movie with big battles but no martial arts (Jet said he was done with wushu/kung-fu films

).

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 06 Jan 2007, 17:18

According to what I've heard Jet plays the villain, Andy the victim, and Kaneshiro (yawn) the hero. Sounds like mis-casting to me.

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 06 Jan 2007, 18:19

It looks good. Andy Lau, Takeshi Kaneshiro and of course Jet Li are decent actors.

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 06 Jan 2007, 22:09

Whoa! I never knew they're remaking it. Really looking forward to it.

Knetan · Post by **Knetan** » 06 Jan 2007, 22:10

hey,

remakes of Flying Guillotine and Five Venoms are also planned.

BiscLimpkit · Post by **BiscLimpkit** » 06 Jan 2007, 22:19

Hmm time to watch the original before this one then. In fact, I need to expand on my Shaw Bros - only seen Five Venoms IIRC.

Yi-Long · Post by **Yi-Long** » 06 Jan 2007, 22:36

I never liked Andy as an actor. I think he's not all that talented, and usually quite wooden. For some roles that works well, for others, it doesnt...

I have never seen Blood Brothers, so dont know what to expect. I just hope it's good.

Knetan · Post by **Knetan** » 06 Jan 2007, 22:44

hey,

one of Chang Cheh's finest, still in the period where he combined character, drama and action that made him one of if not THE greatest in any genre.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 07 Jan 2007, 00:00

I just KNOW that the remake of THE FIVE VENOMS will suck. That film was of its time. You can't make it with today's performers. At least THE BLOOD BROTHERS was a drama at heart.

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 07 Jan 2007, 00:09

I'm sure they won't remake it 1:1, Mark. They are surely going to add modern themes to it, but I also think that the theme of friendship, loyalty and betrayal between men still works very well these days.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 07 Jan 2007, 00:23

thelostdragon wrote: but I also think that the theme of friendship, loyalty and betrayal between men still works very well these days.

A la Brokeback Mountain.

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 07 Jan 2007, 00:31

EvaUnit02 wrote:
thelostdragon wrote: but I also think that the theme of friendship, loyalty and betrayal between men still works very well these days.
A la Brokeback Mountain.

The use of these exact themes have led to many people wondering whether John Woo was gay (as pointed out by Chow Yun-fat in an interview).

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 07 Jan 2007, 00:46

thelostdragon wrote:The use of these exact themes have led to many people wondering whether John Woo was gay (as pointed out by Chow Yun-fat in an interview).

degeneration · Post by **degeneration** » 07 Jan 2007, 01:50

Love the pic eva!!!

I'm just intrigued to see what sort of film this is gonna be since Jet isn't gonna be in any more martial arts films!!! I'm predicting a slow, story told melodrama, with each character taking time to sit back and discuss their problems (a la orange film board discussion with Patrick Swayze - "Maybe if he talked more he wouldn't go around killing everybody?")

Shingster · Post by **Shingster** » 07 Jan 2007, 02:42

thelostdragon wrote:
EvaUnit02 wrote:
thelostdragon wrote: but I also think that the theme of friendship, loyalty and betrayal between men still works very well these days.
A la Brokeback Mountain.
The use of these exact themes have led to many people wondering whether John Woo was gay (as pointed out by Chow Yun-fat in an interview).

I find the homoeroticism in Woo's films hilarious, coz the way he uses male bonding is basically straight from Chang Cheh, but cheh actually was a homosexual and so perhaps unwittingly he did have an ultra-exagerrated and romanticised (also imo slightly sexualised) notion of heroic bonds and manliness/chilvalry. Woo though presumably is straight, and has always been completely bamboozled by reports that his films are "gay"

bradavon · Post by **bradavon** » 07 Jan 2007, 04:08

I never realised people think he's gay. It's far from uncommon for straight guys to be homoerotic. Some examples:

1. Top Gun - Tony Scott straight
2. Football - Geezers openly hugging each other
3. Lads going out getting pissed then hugging

You get the idea.

EvaUnit02 · Post by **EvaUnit02** » 07 Jan 2007, 15:01

bradavon wrote:I never released people think he's gay.

You never released people?

Get more sleep.

thelostdragon · Post by **thelostdragon** » 07 Jan 2007, 15:09

Drunk on a Sunday?

BaronKermit · Post by **BaronKermit** » 07 Jan 2007, 16:26

Shingster wrote: ....but cheh actually was a homosexual....

Where did you get that 'fact' from?

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 07 Jan 2007, 20:03

Chang Cheh wasn't gay.

Perhaps he just enjoyed the male aesthetic?

Doesn't mean it extended to his sexuality.

Shingster · Post by **Shingster** » 07 Jan 2007, 23:40

I thought it was well known amongst some people in the industry back in the 70's that Cheh was a closeted homosexual? I'll see if I can find anything to back that claim up.

EDIT:

I knew i'd read online essays that mentioned this, here's one:
http://www.sensesofcinema.com/contents/ ... chang.html

But here's what Linn Haynes has to say over on theAsianDVDGuide:

Linn wrote:There is none, other than from the HK critics, snidely remarking that he was, which started around the time he lost cred at the box-office. Many chalk it up to critics who were pissed off at him for doing so well, and then flaunting it early on in his career. He denied it until his dying day, and said in interviews and in his biography that it was something that caused him a lot of grief over the years. I honestly felt bad for the man being put through the ringer over it.

So make of that what you will.

tom2681 · Post by **tom2681** » 08 Jan 2007, 00:29

This thread has gone gay.

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 08 Jan 2007, 18:51

If Chang says he wasn't gay then as far as I'm concerned he's not gay.

It's not like there's a queue of rentboys begging to difffer...

romerojpg · Post by **romerojpg** » 08 Jan 2007, 18:59

Your 1st in line...

Markgway · Post by **Markgway** » 09 Jan 2007, 00:01

romerojpg wrote:Your 1st in line...

If you're going to be insulting at least use correct grammar, dolt!